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Old 01-28-2008, 06:11 PM   #40
Newjack88
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exactly, but I'm saying that Chinese students who test into their top colleges end up being skilled, well educated citizens who are willing and capable of positive societal contributions anyways.
first of all, no one is saying that Chinese students don't give back to their universities. anyways, there are already a lot of Chinese students who get into top universities under the current system. lastly, there is a lot of bureaucracy in China and almost everything is awarded by merit. things don't work like that in the US. if you pay attention in your AP US History class you will come to understand that people in the US value much more subjective things when it comes to assigning roles. just look at corporate buzz words: "hardworker", "team player", "goal oriented", "winner", "vision", etc. people who have these abstract qualities are the ones who succeed in the US.

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I'm Indian and I definitely say that China is catching up to the US...aisgzdavinci, I'm on your side!
hmmm i never said that China wasn't "catching up" to the US. i think that any one who disagreed is ignorant of world affairs.

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But seriously, if you haven't lived in China for several years, then don't make comments about the facism and socialism stuff. There aren't anymore propaganda posters about "Do this for the sake of your country".
haha why would i need to live in China to know these things? you are outright wrong about the socialism thing. first of all, nothing is wrong with the idea of socialism and almost every democratic government in the world has some socialistic programs that benefit society. most important though is that your country's officials emphasize that their economic policies do not contradict socialism. as for fascism, i said that it wasn't as "fascist" anymore. it still doesn't have a great human rights/liberties record etc.

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And about the economic growth thing, I can see like 10 skyscrapers being built right now from my place. I also don't understand how your stock market statistics really relates to the growth of China. All it's telling me is that stock markets are volatile, not a lot of relation to the economy.
please research this topic some more... :/

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Also, I have the feeling that you're trying to avoid the truth that CHN is catching up. Always want to stay in your little reality that your country is the best, right? I love these debates, seriously.
*cough* extreme nationalism *cough*
dude, chill out. why would i want to debate about which country is better? i was just posting because i know a lot about this subject... anyways, hate to break it to you but even if China's economy passes the US's it'd be a moot point. the quality of life the average American has would still be better than that of the average Chinese. since per capita income correlates to quality of life, China would need to establish a per capita income of about almost $40,000 to match the quality of life in America. achieving such a high level of per capita income would be virtually impossible since China has 1.3 billion people. do $40,000 times 1.3 billion and that's about how much wealth China would need to produce if it really wants to be the next America.

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guys, i'm not a China hater, i'm just informed and i suggest you become informed too . (by becoming informed i actually mean read books about this topic. i think it's pretty interesting... oh yea, going on wikipedia isn't sufficient.)
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