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FWDAD · 04-09-2008, 04:44 PM

Two quick observations. We are all ultimately constrained by the facts and when you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw rocks.

I am at a total loss for how USNA Dad&Grad can rationalize his statement above regarding Caleb Campbell and Kyle Eckel. The only difference I can find is that even if Caleb Campbell gets drafted he will serve in the Army Reserves and help Army recruiting. Can you honestly say that about Kyle Eckel? The fact that USNA Dad&Grad and some other Navy grads may "not all be in agreement of how that went down" doesn't change the fact that Kyle Eckel did not follow a traditional path after graduating from Annapolis and that he did not fulfill the commitment he made while at the Naval Academy. The reality is that Eckel was treated differently than other Naval Academy grads regardless of whatever justification or policy the Navy used to achieve that end. Does it bother you that West Point is doing something through the front door that Annapolis is doing through the backdoor? Is that hypocritical?

For some reason reality seems to be missing from this thread. I commend Shogun and the others who have added some common sense to this thread. If anyone doesn't understand why the Army is having a hard time recruiting take a long hard look at the number of West Point grads that have made the ultimate sacrifice for their Country. Then take a look at the same statistics for Naval Academy grads and Air Force Academy grads. Do you think a young high school graduate or graduate to be might be able to see that you are a lot more likely to die if you go to West Point or join the Army than the Navy or Air Force?

Get off the ride and Disneyworld and look at the reality of what is happening in the world. Every kid that serves his country is to be commended, whether they graduated from USMA, USNA, USAFA or the high school down the street. All of the Armed Forces are dealing with tough times and the prospects for significant improvement in the short term don't look so hot. Let's stop taking pot shots at each other and concentrate on something positive. We are all suppose to be paddling together and second guessing another branch's policy is counter productive at best. And if for some reason you feel compelled to condemn another service's policy, make sure that your own hasn't done exactly the same thing by another name.

04-09-2008, 04:44 PM	#43
FWDAD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 153	The Ultimate in Hypocrisy Two quick observations. We are all ultimately constrained by the facts and when you live in a glass house you shouldn't throw rocks. I am at a total loss for how USNA Dad&Grad can rationalize his statement above regarding Caleb Campbell and Kyle Eckel. The only difference I can find is that even if Caleb Campbell gets drafted he will serve in the Army Reserves and help Army recruiting. Can you honestly say that about Kyle Eckel? The fact that USNA Dad&Grad and some other Navy grads may "not all be in agreement of how that went down" doesn't change the fact that Kyle Eckel did not follow a traditional path after graduating from Annapolis and that he did not fulfill the commitment he made while at the Naval Academy. The reality is that Eckel was treated differently than other Naval Academy grads regardless of whatever justification or policy the Navy used to achieve that end. Does it bother you that West Point is doing something through the front door that Annapolis is doing through the backdoor? Is that hypocritical? For some reason reality seems to be missing from this thread. I commend Shogun and the others who have added some common sense to this thread. If anyone doesn't understand why the Army is having a hard time recruiting take a long hard look at the number of West Point grads that have made the ultimate sacrifice for their Country. Then take a look at the same statistics for Naval Academy grads and Air Force Academy grads. Do you think a young high school graduate or graduate to be might be able to see that you are a lot more likely to die if you go to West Point or join the Army than the Navy or Air Force? Get off the ride and Disneyworld and look at the reality of what is happening in the world. Every kid that serves his country is to be commended, whether they graduated from USMA, USNA, USAFA or the high school down the street. All of the Armed Forces are dealing with tough times and the prospects for significant improvement in the short term don't look so hot. Let's stop taking pot shots at each other and concentrate on something positive. We are all suppose to be paddling together and second guessing another branch's policy is counter productive at best. And if for some reason you feel compelled to condemn another service's policy, make sure that your own hasn't done exactly the same thing by another name.