Mondo

After this, I have to continue studying for my math final.

Here's how I would rank them, in terms of quality of undergraduate education/selectivity/student body quality.

National Universities
1-Harvard
2-Princeton
3-Yale
4-Caltech
5-MIT
6-Dartmouth
7-Duke
8-Stanford
9-Columbia
9-Rice
11-WashU
12-Brown
13-UPenn
14-UChicago
15-Northwestern
16-Notre Dame
17-Georgetown
17-Carnegie Mellon
19-Johns Hopkins
20-Cornell
21-Tufts
22-Emory
23-Vanderbilt

Dartmouth & Duke, I think, have slightly stronger undergrad programs than Stanford or Columbia. Rice is underrated and easily beats many of the Ivies- I think it is Top Ten material.

I realize that my list doesn't have any of the top publics but I think in terms of undergrad education alone, privates have an advantage over publics. For similar reasons, this is why Cornell is fairly low on my list- strong graduate programs, not as strong undergraduate programs.

I, for one, would be thrilled to go to Berkeley, UVA, or Michigan for law school.