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kmatimber2 · 05-06-2008, 08:34 PM

@ Dontno
Your assumption that recruited athletes are less academically qualified than other applicants is way off base.
The NCAA Academic Progress Rate is a measure of the eligibility and retention of student-athletes participating in NCAA sports at any Division I institution. Each NCAA varsity team is given a score on a scale from 1-1000 (1000 meaning that every individual on that team was academically eligible for the following team and either returned to school or graduated).
Every year teams with APR scores in the top 10% nationally for their sport recieve public recognition.

The following is a list of schools ranked by the number of teams honored for the second year in a row.
1) Yale (28 teams)
2) Dartmouth (24)
3) Brown (21)
4) Penn (20)
5) Princeton (19)
6) Harvard (18)
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T-16) Cornell (11)
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20) Columbia (9)

So, no the Ivy league schools are not accepting underqualified athletes, in fact their athletes routinely recieve recognition for their academic achievements. (Keep in mind that these athletes are maintaining elligibility/graduating in some of the most rigorous academic environments in the nation) The Ivies can't accept underqualified athletes because if they fail out and lose eligibilty they can't play for the team anyway. Not to mention a strong athletic program with devoted fans brings in a lot of money for schools, money that benefits athletes and non-athletes alike.
Has it occured to you that many athletes are learning/ being educated in their sport, in the hopes of becoming a professional athlete, just like math majors learn math in the hopes of becoming a mathematician, psychology majors learn psychology in the hopes of becoming a psychologist, etc.
Also, why are athletic achievements any less important than musical/theatrical/artistic achievements. There are many different types of knowledge that can be persued at college, sorry that they don't all fit into your classical view of "education". Athletics teaches many important lifeskills (teamwork, leadership, hard work, responsibilty, commitment, communication, the abilty to deal with others) that mindless problem sets will never teach.
I find your view of college life and "education" to be very narrow-minded. You are what I call an intellectual snob.

05-06-2008, 08:34 PM	#34
kmatimber2 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Threads: 4 Posts: 201	@ Dontno Your assumption that recruited athletes are less academically qualified than other applicants is way off base. The NCAA Academic Progress Rate is a measure of the eligibility and retention of student-athletes participating in NCAA sports at any Division I institution. Each NCAA varsity team is given a score on a scale from 1-1000 (1000 meaning that every individual on that team was academically eligible for the following team and either returned to school or graduated). Every year teams with APR scores in the top 10% nationally for their sport recieve public recognition. The following is a list of schools ranked by the number of teams honored for the second year in a row. 1) Yale (28 teams) 2) Dartmouth (24) 3) Brown (21) 4) Penn (20) 5) Princeton (19) 6) Harvard (18) --- T-16) Cornell (11) ---- 20) Columbia (9) So, no the Ivy league schools are not accepting underqualified athletes, in fact their athletes routinely recieve recognition for their academic achievements. (Keep in mind that these athletes are maintaining elligibility/graduating in some of the most rigorous academic environments in the nation) The Ivies can't accept underqualified athletes because if they fail out and lose eligibilty they can't play for the team anyway. Not to mention a strong athletic program with devoted fans brings in a lot of money for schools, money that benefits athletes and non-athletes alike. Has it occured to you that many athletes are learning/ being educated in their sport, in the hopes of becoming a professional athlete, just like math majors learn math in the hopes of becoming a mathematician, psychology majors learn psychology in the hopes of becoming a psychologist, etc. Also, why are athletic achievements any less important than musical/theatrical/artistic achievements. There are many different types of knowledge that can be persued at college, sorry that they don't all fit into your classical view of "education". Athletics teaches many important lifeskills (teamwork, leadership, hard work, responsibilty, commitment, communication, the abilty to deal with others) that mindless problem sets will never teach. I find your view of college life and "education" to be very narrow-minded. You are what I call an intellectual snob.