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^ colleges like Stanford, MIT, Duke do not need to qualify themselves, their repute and quality are indisputable....strapping on terms like "ivy plus" or "ivy peer" or insisting that ppl mention them when they talk about ivies only serve to reinforce the idea that they are NOT ivies and that academic excellence is exclusive to the ivies

i find it strange that ppl construe statements like "Finally, if you actually attend an Ivy League school, you won't have to spend the rest of your life wishing you had and trying to rationalize your choice to do otherwise." and "ivies are the best" negatively and brand posters the elitist....these are merely views of posters who take pride in their colleges, just like Mr Hawkette, and as long as its not at the expense of denigrating other colleges (i.e. making stupid statements like other colleges suck, or ivies own everything else big time), i see no reason y such posts shud be construed in a negative light....it seems that many CCers have a serious allergy to ivy