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xiggi,
I had two flaws in my data above-problem with formulas in data sort and then a limit of only the first 75 LACs ranked for 2008 by USNWR. Thanks for catching it. Here is the revised data from top to bottom for the Top 75 LACs:
Difference Between USNWR Rank and PA Rank , Overall USNWR Rank , PA , PA Rank , School
29 , 69 , 3.5 , 40 , Earlham***
29 , 75 , 3.4 , 46 , Spelman***
28 , 54 , 3.9 , 26 , Reed***
19 , 54 , 3.6 , 35 , St. Olaf***
17 , 71 , 3.3 , 54 , Coll of Wooster
12 , 26 , 4.1 , 14 , Macalester***
11 , 17 , 4.3 , 6 , Smith***
11 , 20 , 4.2 , 9 , Oberlin***
10 , 24 , 4.1 , 14 , Bryn Mawr***
9 , 28 , 4 , 19 , Mt. Holyoke
9 , 49 , 3.5 , 40 , Pitzer
9 , 49 , 3.5 , 40 , Rhodes
9 , 63 , 3.3 , 54 , Agnes Scott
9 , 71 , 3.2 , 62 , Hendrix
6 , 52 , 3.4 , 46 , Denison
5 , 11 , 4.3 , 6 , Grinnell***
5 , 24 , 4 , 19 , Bates***
5 , 40 , 3.6 , 35 , Sewanee***
5 , 40 , 3.6 , 35 , U Richmond
5 , 67 , 3.2 , 62 , Kalamazoo
5 , 67 , 3.2 , 62 , Beloit
4 , 30 , 3.9 , 26 , Barnard
4 , 36 , 3.7 , 32 , Occidental
4 , 44 , 3.5 , 40 , Connecticut Coll
3 , 22 , 4 , 19 , Colby
3 , 22 , 4 , 19 , US Military Acad
3 , 32 , 3.8 , 29 , Kenyon***
3 , 49 , 3.4 , 46 , DePauw
2 , 11 , 4.2 , 9 , Wesleyan
2 , 56 , 3.3 , 54 , Wheaton
2 , 56 , 3.3 , 54 , Lawrence
1 , 2 , 4.7 , 1 , Amherst***
1 , 7 , 4.3 , 6 , Bowdoin***
1 , 15 , 4.1 , 14 , Harvey Mudd
1 , 20 , 4 , 19 , US Naval Acad
1 , 30 , 3.8 , 29 , Bucknell
1 , 47 , 3.4 , 46 , Skidmore
1 , 63 , 3.2 , 62 , Drew
1 , 63 , 3.2 , 62 , Hobart & Will Smith
0 , 1 , 4.7 , 1 , Williams***
0 , 3 , 4.6 , 3 , Swarthmore***
0 , 4 , 4.5 , 4 , Wellesley***
0 , 5 , 4.4 , 5 , Carleton***
0 , 9 , 4.2 , 9 , Davidson***
0 , 40 , 3.5 , 40 , F&M
-1 , 34 , 3.6 , 35 , Trinity (CT)
-1 , 71 , 3 , 72 , VMI
-2 , 7 , 4.2 , 9 , Pomona***
-2 , 17 , 4 , 19 , Colgate
-2 , 33 , 3.6 , 35 , Holy Cross
-2 , 44 , 3.4 , 46 , Centre***
-2 , 44 , 3.4 , 46 , Dickinson
-2 , 52 , 3.3 , 54 , Wabash
-3 , 11 , 4.1 , 14 , Vassar
-3 , 26 , 3.8 , 29 , Colorado College***
-3 , 37 , 3.5 , 40 , Furman
-3 , 59 , 3.2 , 62 , Wheaton (IL)
-4 , 5 , 4.2 , 9 , Middlebury***
-4 , 10 , 4.1 , 14 , Haverford***
-4 , 28 , 3.7 , 32 , Scripps
-4 , 58 , 3.2 , 62 , St. Lawrence
-4 , 69 , 2.9 , 73 , Ursinus
-4 , 71 , 2.8 , 75 , Muhlenberg
-6 , 48 , 3.3 , 54 , Gettysburg
-6 , 63 , 3.1 , 69 , Williamette
-8 , 11 , 4 , 19 , Claremont McK
-9 , 37 , 3.4 , 46 , Bard
-10 , 59 , 3.1 , 69 , Illinois Wes
-10 , 59 , 3.1 , 69 , Southwestern
-11 , 15 , 3.9 , 26 , W&L
-12 , 34 , 3.4 , 46 , Lafayette
-14 , 40 , 3.3 , 54 , Union
-14 , 59 , 2.9 , 73 , Wofford
-15 , 17 , 3.7 , 32 , Hamilton
-17 , 37 , 3.3 , 54 , Whitman
For the relationship between Overall USNWR rank and PA rank, there is a broader distribution than I had originally posted, but I still think it is a tighter distribution than is found in the national universities list. It was also interesting to find those colleges ranked highly for classroom teaching mostly in the top half. This is very different from the national universities.
erin's dad,
I wouldn't read too much into these numbers. They are fun to look at, but I wouldn't overanalyze them or make any significant decisions based on them. The classroom teaching data is from 1995 and much could have changed on many of these campuses over this time (but I think that students would be well advised to check this out, especially for colleges that are highly ranked but which are not recognized for classroom excellence).
Plus, IMO the PA data is an absolute travesty. Unless I was interested in a career in academia, I would place very little weight on a college's PA score.
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