NewHope, if only I could get the good hygiene thing through to them!
kathiep, my older son is a Scout and so has had a lot of opportunities to volunteer and, really, just gets it more than the younger one. The 13yo never did Scouts, and I'm not sure what the NJHS or Student Council at his school are doing in the community service arena. Nothing, I think.
Truthfully, he doesn't mind it at all from a work standpoint, He was just bemoaning that because he has to be there so early (7:30) that it'll cut into his social life, like sleepovers. And, he would like to have a greater social "payoff," to do the work with friends. I can understand that it would be more fun with a friend, but this is about community service; it's not a playdate.
Anyway, next year I'll make sure he drives the boat on this -- but I'm sure I'll still have to coax him into the car.
Calreader, I'll pm you.