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Old 07-02-2009, 12:52 AM   #7
Morsmordre
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idk, if you aren't going to talk under extreme torture, when will you lol? Or at least that's how yours truly works.

About the status of torture, I personally see nothing morally against it...for Christ's sake they want to kill innocent civilians so I really don't care if you beat, mutilate, rape, gouge eyes out, even kill these terrorists. If they want to kill someone who has never done anything to them, I couldn't care less how we treat them.

That being said what I do care about is the hypocrisy aspect to torture. I am not very familiar with my history but I think we signed and spearheaded some sort of agreement that banned the unequivocal use of torture and made it illegal for all other nations to do so under penalty of international law. I understand this law because our people are in the right (usually) and aren't out to harm innocents (usually). However, if we want to maintain face we can't expect from other countries what we cannot expect from ourselves. I am sure that our opponents also feel that they "are in the right (usually) and aren't out to harm innocents (usually)". To put it in a simple analogy, if a dad told his kids not to do drugs and then was arrested for drug possession, what type of message will that send to his kids? Or I guess a better analogy (since torture isn't wrong) would be if a dad told his kids not to drink milk or else you'll die and drank milk in front of the kids...what would that send to the kids about the dangers of milk? Hint: there are none

So yeah, that was a bit of a ramble, but I denounce torture not for the emotional aspect, but instead for the hypocrisy aspect.
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