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Not necessarily. There’s a huge difference between morals that are socially accepted and morals that are absolute. My original question was along the lines of asking you why murder is wrong fundamentally on your evolutionary, reductionist, idealism. You say you get it from family, yourself, and society, but I’m not asking where you get it from. Like you said previously, just because a bunch of people agree on it doesn’t make it true. Now I want to hold you up to the same standard of scrutiny.
“Are you telling me that the only reason you don't commit murder is because God deemed it's wrong? I mean, that doesn't speak highly of your own mental acuity.”
Are you telling me that the only reason you don’t commit murder is because society deemed it’s wrong? I mean, that doesn’t speak highly of your own mental acuity. See how ridiculous that sounds? I don’t think this has anything to do with mental acuity. It has a much deeper implication on what morality is and how people define “good” and “evil.”
Furthermore, I already stated that I believe morality can arise independently from religion. Independent means you don’t need religion to have morality. Read that one more time just so we’re on the same page. Please. Thanks. I said your morality would be very different from the morality we hold sacred today if there was a significant atheistic social influence in the Western culture.
I’ve noticed something during debates with atheists. They always seem to have a didactic arrogance to them. Look man, I’m trying to have a productive conversation with you and you’re insulting my intellect?
I’m asking why you consider it wrong. I think the only way you can answer this in a way that makes sense is if you say that right and wrong are relative to what benefits the species from passing on its genes. Your god is a nihilistic, minimalist. You guys were the ones claiming to “rise above” and “move on” from religion with the scientific knowledge we’ve accumulated. Why don’t you liberate yourselves from these bonds of society and do what’s best for yourselves? So now we come back to the question: why not do what’s best for yourself now that you’re enlightened about what’s “holding us back.”
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