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M/F "count" as legacies, and they do need to meet the standards but I am sure there is some slack...... I have heard of many students who did not get accepted with either M/F ties.Interestingly enough my great,great great ..... uncle was the first football coach at ND Frank Herring......... My daughter still got waitlisted (she still laughs about trying to tie that info in to her letter,and yes at the time we felt the same about legacies but now that she is in she can help her S/D provided they meet the acceptance standard of the day.............. Work hard don't give up and it can happen Good Luck.
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