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dstark · 04-06-2007, 10:24 AM

Hawkette, you are talking about Michigan's location? Every other school that has a strong placement on Wall Street is much closer to Wall Street than Michigan except maybe for Stanford. Does Stanford even have strong placement? Location is one of the most important reasons why some schools have more alumni working on Wall Street than others. I'm assuming that is why Wash U has such poor placement. Or maybe Wall Street doesn't think much of Wash U students?

And that is another reason why I mentioned Chicago. My guess is from my small data points that the schools in the Midwest are more represented in Chicago. Schools like Michigan are well represented in Chicago and NY.

Alexandre, do you know anything about student placement in Chicago?

It is very hard to compare the intellect of students at different schools. However, if a school has strong placement, clearly the students are intelligent enough.

You keep talking about the size of the school. If I'm excellent intellectually, clearly I can still stand out as at school like Michigan. And if I'm excellent intellectually, I should be able to do well no matter where I go. You said this yourself. If I can't stand out at Michigan or schools of that size, maybe I'm not excellent intellectually in the first place.

"If you could have all excellent students as your classmates, why wouldn?t you? No study is necessary. I think it?s self-evident. Everybody wants to go to a school with smart people. Isn?t this a large part of what this college rat race is all about? Trying to get with the strongest group possible, learn a little, make some important relationships and then go off and have a successful career? As for my proof, I point to the entire college process. I don?t see many people going out of their way to associate with inferior students."

I have no idea how you are measuring inferior students.
If students with gpas below 3.7 are out, I guess Emory, a school I thought you liked, is out. Twenty five percent of their students have high school gpas below 3.7.

I would recheck your UCSD grades. The 3.98 gpa, those are weighted grades.
The average unweighted grades at Berkeley and Stanford are 3.9.

04-06-2007, 10:24 AM	#66
dstark Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,661	Hawkette, you are talking about Michigan's location? Every other school that has a strong placement on Wall Street is much closer to Wall Street than Michigan except maybe for Stanford. Does Stanford even have strong placement? Location is one of the most important reasons why some schools have more alumni working on Wall Street than others. I'm assuming that is why Wash U has such poor placement. Or maybe Wall Street doesn't think much of Wash U students? And that is another reason why I mentioned Chicago. My guess is from my small data points that the schools in the Midwest are more represented in Chicago. Schools like Michigan are well represented in Chicago and NY. Alexandre, do you know anything about student placement in Chicago? It is very hard to compare the intellect of students at different schools. However, if a school has strong placement, clearly the students are intelligent enough. You keep talking about the size of the school. If I'm excellent intellectually, clearly I can still stand out as at school like Michigan. And if I'm excellent intellectually, I should be able to do well no matter where I go. You said this yourself. If I can't stand out at Michigan or schools of that size, maybe I'm not excellent intellectually in the first place. "If you could have all excellent students as your classmates, why wouldn?t you? No study is necessary. I think it?s self-evident. Everybody wants to go to a school with smart people. Isn?t this a large part of what this college rat race is all about? Trying to get with the strongest group possible, learn a little, make some important relationships and then go off and have a successful career? As for my proof, I point to the entire college process. I don?t see many people going out of their way to associate with inferior students." I have no idea how you are measuring inferior students. If students with gpas below 3.7 are out, I guess Emory, a school I thought you liked, is out. Twenty five percent of their students have high school gpas below 3.7. I would recheck your UCSD grades. The 3.98 gpa, those are weighted grades. The average unweighted grades at Berkeley and Stanford are 3.9.
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