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So where do you stand, sakky? This is an opinion thread, and it seems like all you're good for is debunking other people's opinions.
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Uh, no, I haven't debunked your
opinion. Rather, I have debunked some of the rationale that you used to defend your opinion. Specifically, you stated that market forces would serve to impel professions to increase educational requirements, yet the evidence indicates otherwise. I am not aware of any market forces that caused the law profession or the medical profession in the US to boost its requirements. I am certainly not aware of any good rationale for why those same forces would serve to boost such requirements only in the US, but not other countries.
The bottom line is that if you still want to believe that engineering should not increase its educational requirements, that's fine. That's your opinion and everybody has a right to their own opinion. But if you then want to justify your opinion, you have to make sure that your justification holds water. I am not aware of any
market forces that serve to enhance educational standards. If you are aware of some, please do tell.
As far as where I stand, like I said before, I haven't taken a stance. I personally haven't come to a decision about whether increasing engineering requirements would be good or not.
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I don't necessarily believe that doctors or lawyers need the *extra* education. Why they decided to enhance requirements, I don't really know or care. I don't think the requirements should be arbitrarily changed. Give me a good reason - and no, professional societies having prestige-hungry wet-dreams is not a good reason - and then we can talk. I've not seen a single good reason for doing it in this thread. Perhaps you can refresh my memory, though?
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Well, first off, I don't think the reasons necessarily have to be "good". They just have to be effective. For example, again, for whatever reason, good or not, medicine and law were able to enhance their educational requirements. It seems to me that you dislike that change and I infer from your posts that you probably wish that the US medical educational system was more like that in Europe (in which you can attend medical school right after high school with no need for any intervening undergrad education whatsoever). Hey, that's fine. But at the end of the day, somehow, whether for good reasons or not, the AMA was able to increase educational requirements for doctors.