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Old 10-20-2007, 03:38 PM   #101
Atana
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The higher suicide rate in Germany relates to other social conditions, not the situation being discussed here, which relates to the effects and abuses inherent to the college loan situation in the US. Concerning student populations, the higher student suicide rate in Germany and for that matter Japan, is more the result of their unique social expectations for education. The pressure to get into certain fields of study, or family pressures not to cause lose of face. Which, once again, are implicity not directly correlated in any meaningful way to the issue being discussed in this debate.
That of the excessive costs and the literal carte blanche for abuses which have stained the US collegiate system. To illustrate, I have worked within the court system, and know first hand the tactics and harassment used by loan servicers.
Simply put, the level of harassment our system permits them to use agaisnt people is appalling. If a private individual were to conduct themselves in a like manner, charges would be applied for harassment, stalking, and in some cases, extortion. And specific experience within the courts is not needed to make this assessment. Many who have obtained advanced degrees, have to some degree been subjected to these pressures, or are aware of someone who has been.
So yes, I'm quite aware of the higher suicide rate in Germany. As any person would be who has the capacity to do a google search. But, it has little to do with the situation which caused the death of the unfortunate gentleman around which this discussion is premised. And that situation, is specifically oriented to the abuses with the collegiate funding system, and how the colleges themselves have been accessories to these activities. The operative word, in this context, was and is profiteering.

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