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Originally Posted by edvest1 So christians commit mayhems too, what's the big deal! That is what you and people like 1of42 is saying. You stand ready to pardon terrorists who consider their duties to kill as many infidels as possible ? |
Show me where I said anything like that. Show me.
You can't, because I never, ever said that. I've never pardoned terrorists. Ever. I just don't assume innocent Muslims are about to blow me up. Do you?
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Originally Posted by edvest1 1of42, I maybe "simple-minded" but not confused-minded like you and other liberals. You are confused about rights and wrongs. Far from perfect but I strive toward my ideals in working toward the rights and moving away from wrongs. You move NOWHERE with your liberal precepts but stand and cheer at every misfortune our government suffers. It's us not them. Sigh. |
I strive towards my ideals too. I just happen to be clear about what rights and wrongs actually are - and in my book, grouping Muslims with terrorists merely because they share the same religion is a wrong.
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Originally Posted by edvest1 This all goes back to how a defective liberal mind works: taking contrarian views because it's more colorful, making wrongs not appear so wrong is covertly satisfying. And making fun and denigrate rightfulness works in the same way. The rightful position always seems outdated, uninteresting, slaps one in the face. The liberal position is capricious and fun. I on the other hand believe real truths is really not that complicated. On the other thread where we exchanged heated debate, you know the one: "Maine Middle School to Offer Birth Control", I was talking about chaste is best 11 year olds and you are all for 11 year old girls to get the pill because of your twisted reasons mistaken for compassion. How does one get this kind of mindset: one way is by feeding on liberal press because by nature liberal media make more interest reads. In order to sell they have to put out that trash. And one liberal editor will try to out-liberal another by making more bizarre claims. After 30 or 40 years of brain washing by leftist liberal media, a person is so misled and ingrained with this stuff that obsecure their grip on reality. |
There's this construct I like to call the paragraph. This particular paragraph is made up of several. Try to separate.
That said: Are you serious? On the Maine birth control issue, I was very clear. I think 11 year olds having sex is very unfortunate. I would rather they didn't.
But unfortunately, they don't listen to me. And they won't listen to you either. And in fact, many of them won't even listen to their parents on this issue (instead having sex behind their parents' backs). Recognizing that fact (which you either ignore or dispute, in either case being wrong), I posit that it is better to have sexually active 11 year olds who aren't getting pregnant than sexually active 11 year olds who are. Do you disagree?
As for the rest of your paragraph: Yes, I suppose I must be brainwashed. Totally brainwashed, indeed. Leave aside the fact that I really don't hold the vast majority of "liberal" ideals (I'm libertarian, which I've told you at least 3 times now, and you keep ignoring - libertarianism is not liberalism!). Leave aside also that I rarely take what the media says at face value - if I did, I would've been cheering for the war in Iraq at its inception, among other things, and I was not.
I don't denigrate rightness. I don't make wrongs appear any less wrong than they are. You might think I do, but that's because you're misguided. (Ooh, see how well I can make points that have no substance? I think I might be just as good as you at it!)
There is real truth out there, but it's often very complicated. The fact that you are apparently unaware of how complex the real world really is is highly unfortunate, and will serve you badly.