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Ok here goes as I am the designated bad guy for this piece...
"I think you're not paying sufficient attention to the fact that this company broke the law"
Nope caught that.. but does their wrong dupe hers? My point, is she a victim or did she get caught? Is senator Craig a victim or did he get caught?
depends..don't it?
Kluge we live in a country that will imprison a man for shoplifting bread or smoking some dope, but allow a man who robs a pension plan of millions a free pass? I didn't make the rules, nor am I really trying to defend them, just live with em, ya know? in this particular case is there not a high risk pool available? In WA state we have a high risk pool.
As far as the ommission didn't fit the need? Didn't norte dame fire a coach who padded his college education experience? He lost his job because his degree wasn't quite right, but he coaches football, so why cut him loose? We make big deals over people whom emblish resumes or leave things off... that have nothing to do with their jobs, yet they lose their jobs..why?
Was she fudging on the app to save dollars, she took a risk got caught.
"Well, it would solve the problem highlighted in this story, wouldn't it?"
yes, because she would have been paying for insurance already, just as if she had prior coverage, she could have wingwalked. couldn't she? In either senario she would have had coverage and been paying for it either by taxes or premium..
"and why we need universal health care. The whole idea of denying someone medical care because they were sick before they got insurance is ridiculous -"
because she will have been paying into the system from the day she was born so yes, she would not have the problem of pre-ex because she would be paying for it already..
Or is universal health care "free"? refresh my memmorary on how we will pay hospitals, doctors and nurses for services after UHC takes effect. I am sure those folks and the people who will still be needed to process claims (private will simply switch over as you will still have claims) will live on sunshine and never want a raise again?
"A private system where only healthy people with few risks can be approved for insurance that they can afford is no system at all. It is simply a ripoff."
I'm a hypertensive diabetic and I have insurance. it is affordable because I make it a priority in my life. I passed on the ipod, bmw and xbox.. Since I am in the system I deal with alot of people that spend more for those things above every month and would never consider healthcare because it doesn't float their boat...
the one thing that might help with UHC is it will force everyone to own insurance... as you see, not everybody who lacks insurance wants it or wants to pay for it... Not all of the 44miilion are poor desparates, some are making more money than you or I and see no need...yet.
The two aspects of UHC that are fluffed over always seem to be cost and access... It will cost and you'll still hear "no". It's not everybody gets a pony.
sorry the only thing you get rid of in healthcare are the ceos and agents. I make 2% for my services, CEO make alot and gawd I don't like that either. but everything else involved in the nuts and bolts of delievering hc will still need to be there. Claims will still need to be processed at a much greater rate (because hc will become free) professional compensation issues will still be there.. who pays for it? the good fairy?
Most of the dollar collected for hc passes through..to the same people who will still be there under single payor.. did we fix it or make it a monopoly that will cost more?
Actually if you want to know one of the things I would do is I would breakup the United healthcares out there. For the last couple decades (since 83) the bigs have been swallowing the small, in preperation for national healthcare. Your single payor (actually regional payors) is creating itself out there right now, as was planned in 83.
Since then the choices I can offer have gone from around 20, to three or four. How much competition is there when 20 are competing for business than 3 or 4? Some of your UHC folks are getting what you want, no competition already..me? Let's go back 20years and make em all lean and mean and scrappy. Choice.. what a simple concept.
Last edited by Opie ofMaybery2; 11-16-2007 at 08:54 PM.
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