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ACT with Extended Time

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  • dcplannerdcplanner Registered User Posts: 644 Member
    Things may have changed but when my son had a non-standard testing day for his accomodations he was mailed results and then they showed up in his account about 2 weeks later. His took longer to score by a few weeks than his peers who took them under regular conditions.
  • bm_23_bm_23_ Registered User Posts: 12 New Member
    ACT sent my test for scoring on October 11th, i wonder how long it will take
  • RotiniRotini Registered User Posts: 26 New Member
    What's ridiculous is that ACT doesn't separate extended timers from normal test takers. Don't understand the logic behind combining 2 different groups of test takers with entirely different testing conditions. Why not create a curve for the extended timers and another for normal test takers? Regardless of whatever condition the extended time test taker may have, it's completely unfair to create a curve based off of such drastic differences in testing conditions.
  • annamomannamom Registered User Posts: 811 Member
    @Rotini I suggest you re-read the thread..
  • RotiniRotini Registered User Posts: 26 New Member
    @annamom As far as I'm concerned, the thread has been about the "fairness" of extended time test-takers. Only once has it gotten close to the idea that there should be separate curves for each group, but even that hasn't yet been discussed.
  • WISdad23WISdad23 Registered User Posts: 775 Member
    I am not sure what I think about granting extended time for testing. What I do know is that I have never seen an employee ask to be allowed to work longer for less pay because it takes him longer to process the task.

    Extra time to get a 35C?
  • annamomannamom Registered User Posts: 811 Member
    @Rotini and @WISdad23 you are certainly welcome to contact ACT or SAT if you have concerns with the "fairness" of extended time.
  • RotiniRotini Registered User Posts: 26 New Member
    @annamom I'm well aware of that, and I'm also aware that I proposed an idea in a discussion forum for a reason.

    Additionally, I presume you misunderstand what my proposition actually is. I reckon my former post, mentioning the idea of creating separate curves for normal and extended time test takers, didn't make my proposition clear? I'm certainly not directly talking about the "fairness" of extended time test takers.
  • Gandhi21Gandhi21 Registered User Posts: 39 Junior Member
    @Rotini I don't understand why you are proposing this to us. What can any of us do with the idea? I'm completely okay with having separate curves but what does my opinion matter? I don't see the point in talking "indirectly" about this again. Like Annamom said contact ACT and propose the idea.
  • GeorgiaMom50GeorgiaMom50 Registered User Posts: 83 Junior Member
    Actually, if a student has a documented disability that makes it appropriate, he/she can be approved to go to the testing center and test separately. Commonly, they would be able to use time and a half to take the test. It can make all the difference to students, and it lets them show what they know. Like one poster said, extra time doesn't help a student who doesn't know the answer, no matter how long they have to read and process it. But it can make all the difference to students who have a disability.
  • GeorgiaMom50GeorgiaMom50 Registered User Posts: 83 Junior Member
    Great, insightful post. It seems like it's very hard for people to grasp these concepts unless they have seen first-hand a family member who is 'doubly gifted.' People in general have a very limited (and lacking intelligence) view of what 'smart' is. I've seen how my 'superior' spelling skills and math facts memorization are very small strengths compared with the amazing comprehension and big-picture-thinking ability of someone in my family who lacks my strengths. I would say that the majority of students who are highly gifted also struggle greatly with something for which accommodations would make all the difference and allow their strengths to be shared with the world.
  • annamomannamom Registered User Posts: 811 Member
    edited December 2016
    It seems like it's very hard for people to grasp these concepts unless they have seen first-hand a family member who is 'doubly gifted.'

    @GeorgiaMom50 thank you. My point exactly...I am not even saying doubly gifted, it is difficult to see someone works through the challenges.....IMO, there is no point to debate the issue of extended time.
  • DikaiopolisDikaiopolis Registered User Posts: 2 New Member
    edited December 2016
    Guys, it's important to realize that extra time is a huge advantage to the science and reading tests. These do NOT test information, but instead test comprehensions and analytical skills. The time constraint is purposeful because anyone with half a brain could get a high score given enough time to reason through the questions.
  • dcplannerdcplanner Registered User Posts: 644 Member
    edited December 2016
    When you don't understand the exact disadvantage people are under it's not appropriate for you to judge. It's not like people are just asking for extra time because things take them a little bit longer. There are tons of medical/educational tests that are involved to qualify. Typically to get an IEP someone has to be seriously behind not just like 50% but usually less than 10% and often far less than that. I have 2 kids one with a disability and the other without. The one with a disability has a fairly substantial IQ advantage. They have standardized test scores that are identical. To me that shows that the playing field was leveled appropriately for the disabled child. The extra time that he receives is not nearly the amount testing shows would make his processing speed during the test equivalent to a non-disabled person. The stress of finishing on time is very much the same if not more than an average test taker even with extra time.
  • GeorgiaMom50GeorgiaMom50 Registered User Posts: 83 Junior Member
    @Dikaiopolis, it would be beneficial to become educated about the various handicaps (such as the OP's vision), learning differences, and issues that a student who qualifies for accommodations deals with every day of their life. Most people just never get it unless they see it first hand in someone they know very well. For example, a student with dyslexia may have excellent comprehension skills, but especially when reading a short question, they need to read it multiple times to be sure they read it correctly. It's very easy for them to skip a small word such as 'not,' which, of course, would totally change what is being asked. The same student might have to check their math several times to be sure they did not mis-key their calculator input. Some students have extreme anxiety with the tight timing - not just ordinary nerves - to the point where they freeze and cannot even think. They might not even use the extra time, but having it helps them relax enough to show what they know. There are various reasons why a student would qualify, but they do have to qualify. Also, I'm quite sure I would show up as having 'less than half a brain' in your book, because no matter how much time given on the math and science sections, I would not get even an average score. There are many ways of being 'smart.' You have likely tapped into some, but I hope you can expand your horizons.
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