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10-29-2009, 12:13 AM
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#316 | | Senior Member
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prob 34 or 33
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10-30-2009, 11:07 AM
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I see much posting here about a "curve" on the ACT. No curve exists. Notice that the scoring basically stays same for each and every test for many years--- -1=X, -2=Y, -3=Z etc. It's always basically the same. Much much more, look at what the ACT says right on their own website: "Scores are processed and added each week, usually each Wednesday and Friday." Obvious, a test date is not "curved" if some are graded and then scored and then mailed, and others have not even been scored yet!!! No such thing as a curve for each batch they score from same test date. Curve for one test date could only happen if they score ALL tests for one date in one batch and then decided if a curve is going to be made. But ACT is not doing that. They score some, release the score, and then score more tests from the same date. They say that on ACT website so there can't be a curve for a test date. They score tests in batches and obvious they cant issue a curve for one batch that is different then another batch of same test. Reason for that is that whether they score one test or many test from same date, scoring scale is same. There is no "curve" for one month's test. ACT is standardized. The "curve" if you are calling it that, is based on years of ACT test, not one test. So if you get an easy test, you get very lucky. If you get a hard test, you get very unlucky because scoring scale is basically the same. That simple. All this talk of curve on ACT is wrong. FYI - SAT is not like ACT - they score all tests at same time and do curve each test. Good luck.
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10-30-2009, 01:27 PM
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What?
There is ONE CURVE per test
and the "curve" refers to the conversion from raw score to the scaled score which DOES VARY
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10-30-2009, 01:46 PM
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I disagree. There cannot be a per test curve when they grade exams on a batch basis and send out the scores - even before all tests have been graded. A curve can only be made when all the scores are complete. But ACT scores and releases scores as they are graded - 2x week basis. How can there be a curve if that is what they do as they say on their we site. Seems impossible to me. The "curve" is based upon scoring from many exams - not a single exam - unless there web site info is wrong
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10-30-2009, 01:53 PM
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In other words, if you have 100 tests to grade, you can't grade 20 of them, send out the scores, then grade another 20 send out those scores etc...... and make a curve. It's impossible. But ACT issues scores 2x week as they grade exams - and even before all exams graded. That is what they say on their site. So it cannot be a curve for an individual test month. Seems pretty obvious. Am I missing something??
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10-30-2009, 03:28 PM
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because u have ur facts wrong
the curve is predetermined - YES BEFORE THE TEST
Let me repeat: the curve is determined before the test
The ability of the test taking population has NO IMPACT on the "curve".
I used to think it was determined after the test too but I know it isn't now. The ACT assigns difficulty ratings to each question (derived from past experimental sections) and then uses the overall difficulty to set the "curve"
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10-30-2009, 03:37 PM
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We both have the same facts and agree. "Predetermined curve" you say. I simply say a curve based on prior tests. We agree. So no matter how the people taking the test score on average, their scores on that test mean nothing in terms of a curve. I agree. That is why ACT can score the tests and release scores before all the tests have been scored for any given test month. A curve indeed - but it has nothing to do with how people score on the subject test. It is based on prior exam results.
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10-30-2009, 07:24 PM
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Yes - it doenst matter how smart/dumb the students are but the questions from prior tests are modified for the new test
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10-30-2009, 07:53 PM
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Ya BronxSci your completely wrong, there is what we refer to a "curve" which I guess is a misnomer. We mean how many you can miss and get X score, not a performance based curve.
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10-31-2009, 03:31 AM
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chill bronx we know, its just like everyone is saying, its just an easy way to refer to the number wrong vs the score achieved
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11-02-2009, 10:10 AM
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i took the April 2009 test...i missed 7 and got a 32...i feel the math on Aprils test was a bit harder than this math. it had a cube inscribed in a sphere. asking for the radius of the sphere...which is one of the cubes side cubed..and then square rooted..this math didnt really have questions that singled out any math concepts...so im gonna guess the curve isnt as nice...maybe
36- 0
35- -1 or -2
34- -3
33- -4
32- -5 or -6
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11-02-2009, 09:53 PM
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-7/-8= 31
Come on, baby Jesus.
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11-02-2009, 11:47 PM
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i really need -3 in math to be 35
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11-03-2009, 04:11 PM
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I think it might be
36 = -0 to -1
35 = -2
34 = -3 to -4
33 = -5
32 = -6 to -7
31 = -7 to -8
30 = -9
Maybe? Wishful thinking. -3 has been a 35 strangely frequent lately.... I don't know that it will be but hopefully its still generosu
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