Gasdoc

According to my son there may be up to 4 medical turnbacks from Field Day yesterday from Push-Pull. Webguy implied it's rough, and it's probably not worth the the injury risk. Surprising they do it given the overall emphasis on safety.

Falcons '11

I'd wondered about that too. I'd heard last year of at least two turnbacks - due to a broken arm and teeth knocked out by someone's elbow. OUCH!

07PETKO

Yes, pushball is pretty intense (it's also known as medical-turnback ball). We had at least four MTBs this year; I don't even want to tell you what the injuries were, two of them were pretty gruesome. A couple of the matches this year were more like brawls than games. It is actually really suprising that they continue to play pushball at Field Day considering the superfluous amounts of safety procedures involved with everything else. It's a lot of fun to watch, so just do that. That is solid advice.

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Christcorp

"It's a lot of fun to watch, so just do that. That is solid advice."

So, does that mean this activity is "Optional"? I don't know anything about Pushball. But medical turnbacks have to be the worst thing there is. You have to leave and it's not by choice. All that work to get there, then you get hurt and they turn you back.

On a side note, is there a time when Medical Turn Backs are no longer an issue. i.e. you've started classes, you're midway through the first semester, you're crossing campus and slip on ice and break your foot. Do you continue on with classes and other activities within limitations or is there a possibility of a medical turnback? Thx... Mike...

Falcons '11

As for pushball, one of the brawls was my flight vs another one. Yeah, pushing wasn't the only thing that went on in that game...

As for MTB's, it really depends on the injury, recovery time, whether or not near-full recovery is a great possibility, ect. Two people in my flight got stress-fractures, and the first one got it at the beginning of Jack's Valley. Although she was unable to do any of the courses because she was on crutches, nothing else happened. So, there are a couple of different factores to consider during Beast. After Acceptance, as long as you can get to your classes without too many absences, and you will recover at least sometime relatively soon (no more than a couple of months maybe?) I think you won't get a MTB. At least, that's how it was explained to me. Pretty much, don't do pushball or do anything stupid, and you SHOULD be ok. Weird things do happen here though, so you can never be sure.

RTBdad

I seem to recall a post last year from one very bitter 4dig cadet who got an MTB well into the second semester. He was just a week or two short of 100 days and was going to have to repeat BCT and everything. He never said exactly what the nature of his problem was, but he was not a happy camper. I can understand the unhappiness, but he seemed pretty hateful at the time. It would have meant a lot more to all of us if he had just explained the nature of his medical problem, but I think it was an injury. Anyone else remember anything about that in case my 62 year old mind needs an MTB?

07PETKO

Yep. There are probably about 10-12 different Field Day events, and you get to pick what you want to do.

As far as turnbacks go, my understanding is that if you've made it into the school year, they usually aren't going to send you home. But are there exceptions to that? Quite possibly.

Christcorp

Thanks Petko for the info. I'm sure you are correct about once you get into the school year, it would have to be a very serious and none recoverable injury to get you medically turned back. If not, half of the football team probably wouldn't make it to a second year. Thanks again for the info. Later... Mike.....