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Old 09-03-2008, 05:36 PM   #1
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Passes

The Cadet Sight Picture has a chart laying out the passes that can be earned by class and for what reasons.
- Are the "baseline" passes awarded for the year or quarter as the performance passes appear to be?
- Are the Dean's and Commandant's lists published by quarter and passes earned by quarter?
- What are the criteria for those lists?
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:58 PM   #2
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Baseline passes are received twice a semester, beginning and middle.

I don't know how often they grade the three lists, the requirement for each is a 3.0 average.
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Old 09-03-2008, 06:35 PM   #3
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New rule on the Commandant's list, you must be in the top 25%, which will probably be cut-off over a 3.0.
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Old 09-03-2008, 06:35 PM   #4
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Performance passes are given at the end of the semester you just completed/the beginning of the next one. you get 5 passes per list that you're on.. with a maximum of 15 (because there are only 3 lists to be on.. lol)
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:24 PM   #5
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Also, if your upperclassmen like you enough, they can give you five more passes. If they think you are absolutely amazing, you can get ten from them.

Min for 4* - 5 passes
Max - 30 passes
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:10 PM   #6
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?

We can essentially give you as many as we want (via positive Form 10s, etc) or at least as many as leadership will allow, but I've never heard of this +5/+10 deal...
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:50 PM   #7
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Pg 112 of the CSP, table 5.1.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:30 PM   #8
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I love infinite passes.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:08 AM   #9
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We're hoping to visit over a three day weekend in October. How many passes would be used up from Sat. am to Monday pm?
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:59 AM   #10
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That would be 3 passes.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:06 PM   #11
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Oh, I see what you mean mambo. Those aren't given out just if leadership likes you - the excellent/outstanding refers to your OSS score, which is the overall rating of a squadron (GPA, MPA, PEA, marching, community service, PFT scores, etc, etc). Squadrons that perform very well on OSS, i.e. the top few squads in the wing, are the ones that receive those extra passes.
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:39 PM   #12
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From the CSP, it appears those performance passes are quarterly. Are the OSS designations quarterly whereas the Dean's/Commandant's lists are per semester?
Also, it's specifically noted that performance passes don't expire. How 'bout the baseline passes. If they are not used in the following time period, do they disappear?
Huge thanks to all.
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:58 PM   #13
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Baseline passes are recycled every "go" (quarter).
Those are "use 'em or lose 'em" passes.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:10 PM   #14
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...which is why it's always better to use your basic passes before your performance passes.

And Eagle, OSS designations are per semester as well. Certainly not the easiest system in the world to comprehend, looking back at all these posts. Welcome to USAFA, I guess.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:45 PM   #15
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u just rly confused me petko. i saw the eagle reference, and was like, "i haven't even posted here yet!" lol

and OSS/list passes can only be earned each semester, but they still reset with each half the semester. ie, if ur a 3 dig with 10 base passes on one list, you'll get 15 passes to start the year, and it resets to 15 after prog (middle of semester)
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