Achilles_MC0302

Stick with USAFA. Worst case scenario, you dont like USAFA after a couple years, you reapply to CalWhatever and leave USAFA and go there. The credits earned at USAFA will transfer over and you are good to go. Make a note it doesnt work the other way around though... you start USAFA as a fourth class cadet no matter what. So stick with USAFA bud. Plus you might actually look back on your time at the P and be glad ya went there. I know I do.

PS: I just got that warm fuzzy feeling... its gone now though.

bluebayou

doc:

1) what IS the number? You say you "have the truth"....

2) your logic is intriguing....since its only two stories, kids can only break bones? Huh? More importantly, how many kids from ANY schools jump out of windows because of stress (ignoring drunks jumping into pools); how many at West Point, or Annapolis?

Absolutely, the academies are extremely stressful, and should be.....The real question, IMO, is why the AFA has in its mission to encourage kids to leave, and the other academies do not to such an extent. Over the past five years, what is the retention rate (first year to second year) of AFA and what is the retention rate of the other academies? Stats please.....

Grappler

bluebayou:

Am I missing something here? If I read docfrance's response correctly, he said that the number of kids who had jumped or fallen out of windows was one.

Are you questioning the accuracy of his response?

docfrance

Retention over 4 years at USAFA has averaged about 25% for the last 15 years (source: AOG Register of Graduates data). Class of '06 attrition is at about 25% already (1210 reporting and about 925 still left). It is NOT in USAFA's mission to increase attrition or to identify cadets for disenrollment. USAFA's philosophy is that any cadet that's appointed has the potential to graduate and will get the support they need to do so unless and until their behavior or performance warrants disenrollment. I told you the numbers. Now either list something other than hearsay or be deleted.

Data:
Class Entered Graduated Attrition Rate
1990 1338 993 25.8%
1991 1362 977 28.3%
1992 1485 1076 27.5%
1993 1383 959 30.7%
1994 1391 1024 26.4%
1995 1391 994 28.5%
1996 1226 922 24.8%
1997 1164 797 31.5%
1998 1215 947 22.1%
1999 1340 963 28.1%
2000 1239 942 24.0%
2001 1118 862 22.9%
2002 1220 942 22.8%
2003 1330 997 25.0%

I don't have '04's data handy, but I can get it soon. '05 had 1269 report for BCT and 905 graduated two weeks ago.. About another 20 will graduate late (during this summer) due to grades, medical issues, or disciplinary reasons.

Shines

Pff. CalPoly has like a 50% attrition rate. Look at the chart on page 3.

http://www.calpoly.edu/~inststdy/pol.../polytrend.pdf

alexk330

Well I ended up declining. I constantly think about calling them back and trying to convince them to take me.. but i just don't know. The damage is done. Maybe I made the worst mistake of my life, maybe not..

Jamzmom

Alex - You'll do just fine where you're going. It doesn't sound like your heart and mind were made up. If it were, you'd haven taken your appointment. No worries. You sound successful and I wish you well in all you do! Don't beat yourself up about it. Good Luck & go get 'em out there in the big old world!

taffy

please.. nobody look at the coast guard academy attrition rates

AdmiralThomas

I respect you're decision. Best of luck in the future......Go NAVY hehe