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United States Air Force Academy
2304 Cadet Drive- Suite 3800
USAFA, Colorado 80840-5002
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:05 AM   #1
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Usafa!

This was originally for the Dartmouth forum, but I looked on the Ivies forum, and I'm really interested to know what schools I could get into, if any. Thanks in advance! I know if yall have seen this, it is annoying, but I'm at a perk in knowing hat options of schools I have. Thanks again!

Chances Rundown:
Am I in or out?

Hispanic Male
San Antonio, Texas
Medical Magnet School

3.95 (95.658) GPA
20%>x%<25% ranking (190)
30 ACT
750 SAT II *Bio-M*
750 SAT II *World History*
760 SAT II *Math 1-C*
10 APS

2nd UIL Spelling District
UIL Spelling Regionals (13th for my region, but 18th out
of my region, and the the other region
taking the test with me)

Red Cross Club
Dance Revolution Club
Student Council
Spanish Honor Society
National Honor Society
Mu Alpha Theta
Medical Mentorship program at school
BEACON Program (GT)

Killer Essays!

Are the lack of not having any sports or leadership positions going to keep me out of the Air Force Academy? I hope not! :-D
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:37 AM   #2
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you're not well rounded.
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Old 07-10-2005, 09:58 AM   #3
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The lack of sports or leadership is not a good thing. The academies are looking for the "whole person", not just academic excellence but excellence demonstrated over a broad range of activities and participation. The academies are a different "animal" than the civilian schools.
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Old 07-10-2005, 02:41 PM   #4
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I also don't see any community service...
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Old 07-10-2005, 04:25 PM   #5
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hhhaha...ok, I thought it'd be worth a shot to know whether to apply or not. Thanks!
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Old 07-10-2005, 06:08 PM   #6
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yeah, but there are people who still get in to the academies even without varsity sports. You never know, man, just try anyway.
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Old 07-10-2005, 07:38 PM   #7
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"hhhaha...ok, I thought it'd be worth a shot to know whether to apply or not. Thanks!"

Curious...is the air force academy actually something you want to do, or just a neat though?
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:23 PM   #8
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The piece you all need to understand about sports is the team thing. As a military officer, you take orders from above and then make sure that your subordinates carry them out. The identical thing happens on a team. You take the orders from your coach, even if you think they are dumb, and implement them. If your total experience is void of the team process, it is difficult to assess if you can adapt to following orders. And the cavalier statement of:

"hhhaha...ok, I thought it'd be worth a shot to know whether to apply or not. Thanks!"

truely indicates your ignorance of the mission of a service academy. Prior to applying, I would hope you do some research to discover the committment required of all academy appointees.
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Old 07-11-2005, 09:21 AM   #9
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Concur with candidatemom. You may get in on numbers alone, but the athletics will probably end it for you unless you're in great shape and know what it's like to contribute to a sports team. do some research, about 5000 pushups, 500 miles, and then check back in with us...
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:16 PM   #10
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Well, it isn't like I'm not athletic. I'm not a varsity player, or anything that great, but I can definitely do the required physical tasks, without a problem. But don't you have to be considered first though to take the physical test?
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:23 PM   #11
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I'd check out the PAE (Physical Aptitude Test) and Cadet PFT (Phys Fitness Test) and see how you'd do. Remember--grade it VERY tough, because that's how you'll be graded at USAFA. In other words, FULL push-ups and situps, pull-ups, etc. All the way up, all the way down. What's you're 1.5 mile run time? If you score well on the PAE, chances are fair you'll get in. Do NOT underemphasize the importance of athletics at USAFA, though. Hundreds of cadets go on athletic probation every year--something just as serious as academic probation--and many are kicked out for it. Sports/Athletics are very serious there.
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:37 PM   #12
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Also, keep in mind that the PAE standards are different from the PFT standards, as are some of the events they each test. Even people who pass the PAE with flying colors end up failing the PFT sometimes. Do NOT take it lightly.
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Old 07-11-2005, 08:45 PM   #13
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Where can I find online the male PFT scoresheet to determine a score for the five events (pushups, pullups, situps, longjump and 600 yard run)?
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Old 07-11-2005, 08:51 PM   #14
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I think all the academies use the CFA (Candidate Fitness Assesment) now, well at least West Point and the Naval Academy use it.

On the CFA you have 30 minutes to complete it, you get 2 minutes for each activity and then 4 minutes of rest I think, I'm not sure on that.

You start off with a basketball throw you get three attempts.

Then you go to cadence pull ups.

Then you do the 40 yard shuttle run, you get 2 attempts.

Then the modified sit ups.

Then pushups.

Then you get 8 minutes of rest and you do a one mile run.

http://admissions.usma.edu/prospectu...ructions05.pdf
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Old 07-11-2005, 08:54 PM   #15
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Sorry, that's not it; but thank you anyway.
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