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05-07-2007, 09:01 PM
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#16 | | Super Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
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| The story of 2004 is very simple. One poster decided to play games and ignore the rules. College Confidential warned him repeatedly and spent considerable time editing problematic posts. In the end, The College Board was able to identify him with the outcome Tri_N posted himself.
Why risk your college career? Quote:
By Tri_N (Tri_N) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 06:36 pm: Edit
Edited for protection of user. See warnings on TOP of threads' selection page.
Trinity
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By Tri_N (Tri_N) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 06:49 pm: Edit
As for the college board, there're at least hundreds of students with my name. There's no way will the collgeboard trace this back to me. Tri N, if I understand you correctly, you decide to ignore CC requests and TCB warnings because you feel that TCB could not match your information with their files? That is NOT the point: you HAVE to abide by the rules endorsed by CC. As a side note, you should also consider that your posts might provide clues to anyone willing to spend the time to match records. For instance, how many of the students with identical names to yours were Quest scholars? Think about it!. Trinity | Quote:
By Tri_N (Tri_N) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 09:09 pm: Edit
BTW, if the mods think that this is revealing too much, feel free to edit my posts.
Tri N, I am not sure if you paid close attention to the warnings on this site and to the policies of TCB printed on the tests. By now, most everyone seems to understand the meaning of TCB's message. It is YOUR responsibility to follow the rules. This is not a game where you push the limits -no pun intented- as far you can and hope to see moderators edit your posts and bail you out. You are posting at your own risk. Our job is to make sure everyone has seen the rules posted. I can only advise you to use extreme caution in your future posts and ask yourself if it is worth to discuss ANYTHING in the next two days. Moderator Trinity | |
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05-07-2007, 09:07 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Princeton, NJ
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| I like how the moderators wrote comments under specific posts. |
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05-07-2007, 09:11 PM
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#18 | | Member
Join Date: May 2006
Threads: 49
Posts: 440
| What the hell, it can't hurt to ask, right?
Does College Confidential store IP addresses and if asked, would it provide those records to entities such as the CollegeBoard?
-The Asking Coot66 |
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05-07-2007, 09:11 PM
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#19 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
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| Technically there is no way they can trace your identity... |
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05-07-2007, 09:18 PM
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#20 | | Member
Join Date: May 2006
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| IP address gives them an internet service provider who might be all to willing to comply. Also, if you posted information about yourself (ie. stats, locations, past experiences), a motivated person could probably figure out who you are...
And speaking of being motivated, I'm off to study for AP Stat. Thinking to self: Damn, more information CB can use to track me down!
-The Motivated Coot66 |
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05-07-2007, 10:53 PM
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#21 | | Member
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California
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Technically there is no way they can trace your identity...
| not really... all they need to do is find out your ip address (which isn't hard at all) call your internet company and tell them you were violating their rules and the internet company will probably give out your name and phone number (because your name and number isn't necessarily confidential like your address, etc). from there, it would be pretty easy to find you. after all, collegeboard probably has you're name, number, address, etc from the SAT registration. |
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05-08-2007, 09:56 AM
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#22 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
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| I'm curious as to why you aren't allowed to discuss the FRQ within the first 48 hours.
What is the rationale behind that? |
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05-08-2007, 10:11 AM
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#23 | | Member
Join Date: May 2006
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| Different test taking schedules? I don't think everyone on the East Coast follows the same rules...
-The Different Coot66 |
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05-08-2007, 03:19 PM
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#24 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
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| If I'm not mistaken, it's because some testers get extra time with their tests and other advantages due to disabilities. |
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05-08-2007, 04:06 PM
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#25 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
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| Trinity,
Thanks for putting out the word. Frankly, the ban on discussing FRQs should be LONGER than two days. Kids at schools offering both IB and AP exams get special dispensation for alternate scheduling, sometimes for more than two days. In addition, students with extended time may also be scheduled for different days days, esp. if they are taking two exams normally scheduled for the same day, AM and PM.
A volunteer AP proctor |
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05-08-2007, 04:27 PM
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#26 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Student @ JHU (Baltimore, MD) / Houston, TX
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| Just to add to what Trinity and other posters have said: I was around three years ago on the old CC when that whole discussion was going on. I actually took the same AP Calc exam and remember reading the "official" AP calc discussion thread and then hearing a couple days later that people had gotten scores canceled for discussing the test. People were freaking out for the next couple days wondering if they would be the next ones getting a phone call from ETS. At that point, CB's policies were fairly vague on what could be discussed - but the new policies spell it out clearly. So be smart and don't discuss specifics for 48 hours. And good luck on your exams!
Countingdown, I don't know how it's done anymore, but when I took AP exams, I think that if you didn't take the test on the normal test date, you used a different test form and the "makeup" test form had an agreement that you would never discuss the content of the test. |
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05-08-2007, 04:30 PM
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#27 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
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| This is ridiculous. People should be able to talk about whatever test, exam, they want. The College Board has nothing to do with CC, and if CC is asked for information they should ignore College Board's request. |
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05-08-2007, 04:36 PM
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#28 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Student @ JHU (Baltimore, MD) / Houston, TX
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| LaxChamp, CC didn't give the CB any information in 2004, but they were still able to track posters down based on other information they had posted (stats, high school info etc) |
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05-08-2007, 04:39 PM
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#29 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
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| CB shouldn't have been able to prove anything. That could have been anybody talking about an exam. |
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05-08-2007, 05:00 PM
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#30 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: My Dreams
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| CC isn't the only college forum around so i wonder how and why CB would track down anyone violating their rules. Don't get me wrong, rules are rules, but a little extreme from where i'm sitting. |
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