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05-08-2007, 05:33 PM
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#31 | | Member
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CC didn't give the CB any information in 2004, but they were still able to track posters down based on other information they had posted (stats, high school info etc)
| Are we sure about that?
And I agree with tanman. CC could tell members about CB's rules, but IMHO, the final call should be with the user. And I get the feeling Tri_N didn't really fight too much. He posted that his principal told him CB "had evidence"; I would have demanded to see it, asked what pinpointed them to me, etc...
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05-08-2007, 07:31 PM
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#32 | | Junior Member
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LaxChamp, CC didn't give the CB any information in 2004, but they were still able to track posters down based on other information they had posted (stats, high school info etc)
| That sounds a little fishy ... Just using some anonymous postings on the itnernet wouldn't be able to proove anything I'n a court of law. Hell, even actually having an IP address wouldn't be able to proove anything considering anyone could have been using the computer.
Doesn't it seem a bit "Big Brotherish" to be hunting people down and telling them what they can and cannot talk about? |
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05-08-2007, 07:51 PM
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#33 | | Senior Member
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| In a civil case, the standard of proof is "the preponderance of the evidence." An IP address and previous posts would probably be sufficient to establish the identity of the poster. |
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05-09-2007, 01:28 PM
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#34 | | Member
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| I know I'm opening a can of worms, but why are we allowed to discuss SAT tests so freely on this forum (but not APs) when all of us signed agreements not to talk about those questions either? |
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05-09-2007, 01:38 PM
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#35 | | Member
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What's with the no discussing questions rule? Says who? CollegeBoard? Aren't the SAT questions discussed in great detail on the other board on CC? Besides, we're all anonymous...
| Self quote. 1st page of Gov AP thread. Never addressed...
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05-09-2007, 02:18 PM
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#36 | | Senior Member
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| The CB makes you sign an agreement for SAT tests now? Must be a new thing in the last year or two... |
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05-09-2007, 02:33 PM
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#37 | | Member
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| I'm not encouraging any of you to break the rules (though I do it all the time), but I just want you all to know that IP address does not hold in court. My brother was taken to court by SONY for downloading files illegally from Limewire, and the primary evidence that SONY used was IP Address. IP address isn't accurate, since people can use other hosts and connect to networks where IP Addresses are linked and crap. My bro of course countersued on the account of wasting his time due to false accusations, as well as due to the costs of paying for a lawyer...he won, end of case.
Three of my friends from school have also been taken to court, and they have also been able to easily and successfully shut down the IP address claim. However, if you don't bring the inaccuracy of an IP address to the court's attention, you will lose. So if you don't know, now you know. |
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05-09-2007, 04:33 PM
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#38 | | Junior Member
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| "not really... all they need to do is find out your ip address (which isn't hard at all) call your internet company and tell them you were violating their rules and the internet company will probably give out your name and phone number (because your name and number isn't necessarily confidential like your address, etc). from there, it would be pretty easy to find you. after all, collegeboard probably has you're name, number, address, etc from the SAT registration."
lol. I'd like to see that be done. Its not that simple. |
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05-09-2007, 05:43 PM
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#39 | | Member
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| Out of plain curiosity, why does CollegeConfidential care if we "break the rules"? Could some moderator/administrator answer? Does CC get in trouble by us posting "illegal" AP information?
-The Illegal Coot66 |
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05-09-2007, 06:10 PM
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#40 | | Junior Member
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| the original person in question should deserve a 0 on his AP and be forbidden from any other APs for being that stupid and discussing the answers
in response to coot66...it's kind of like the file sharing legality, file sharing programs are not actually providing illegal music, but they are facilitating an environment where people can actively get illegal music |
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05-09-2007, 06:56 PM
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#41 | | Junior Member
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| So why can't someone just register a new account and use a proxy to protect their IP to talk freely about the test? |
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05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
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#42 | | Member
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| ^I use a proxy (or whatever it is, my friends scattered all around the nation set it up so that we have a network of IP's that continuously change...it works well since we all have the same speed broadband connection.) |
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05-09-2007, 08:20 PM
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#43 | | Member
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| missing the point guys........... |
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05-09-2007, 08:36 PM
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#44 | | Member
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| We're missing the point? I don't think so man. THE MAN has brainwashed you man. Fight the power man. Don't believe everything you hear man. It's THE MAN's job to screw you man. Think twice after you hear, see, feel, smell, or touch man. 'Cause they're all haters man. We just want peace man. Legalize marijuana man. It's all good man.
Much love man. |
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05-09-2007, 08:41 PM
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#45 | | Member
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| No, I though Mackie meant that you're missing the problem. Obviously, there are ways to get around the "being banned from posting thing", it's just that CC moderators will delete any such discussion...
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