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Old 04-11-2008, 11:47 AM   #16
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yeah RPI!!!
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:31 PM   #17
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I don't know how you're doing it Sara - I would need a spreadsheet full of plusses and minuses (sp?) to decide between that variety.

I've started my spreadsheet for my daughter (junior looking at interior design) but I don't think she's going to look at it. The tuition column seems to dominate over the rest (DI rank, distance, size, crew, etc.)

Looking forward to your ultimate decision and what factor(s) make you pick the winner. Best of luck.
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:47 PM   #18
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come on, keep the cuts coming!
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:54 PM   #19
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To those that are following my mission here, sorry about my absence. It was prom weekend, which was a blast, and I decided to take a break from list slashing.

Standby, I should have another elimination later this evening.

flalaw-
Since you asked, a spreadsheet is in my head and has been there all winter/spring.

Some breakdown;

Tuitions plus rm&brd, travel, arch supplies etc. vary from 23K to 56K, but merit aid reduced that, at least in my case. All of my choices are now 16-28K per yr COA after merit scholarships, mostly 21-23K making cost difference somewhat less a consideration. By the way, the most expensive choice would have been U of Oregon- I got accepted to the university, but forgot to mail my portfolio to the arch dept My COA there is $32K! So it's not being considered for two reasons, cost and no BArch.

Distance from home is not a real issue as much as ease of travel is. Public transport directly from school to a major airport is the ideal, a longer flight just means a longer nap, more complex transportation is a pain. The closest two schools to my home have no flights and would require a car, gas, insurance, maintenance, parking permit, and the "hey, you have a car, can you give us a ride?" & the "why don't you drive home next weekend for a visit?" syndromes, probably exceeding the cost of two r/t air tickets from the most distant school.

The combined "feel" of the town/city, campus, department, program, classes, studios, professors and students is way, way more important, and the most difficult for me to rank. Over the winter I constantly compared what I felt each school could offer to what I felt my needs are, rather than to each other. I think this may be what lots of people here call their gut choice. I'm glad I visited the schools and would really like a second look at some of them, but that's out of the budget. I'll have to decide on what I know. Although it may appear that the decisions I've revealed on this thread are glib, rest assured they have all come after substantial and deliberate consideration.

To me, most important of all is the arch program and what I can do during my tenure. I've looked at them all hard. I realize rep, rank and prestige can carry significant weight in the real world, however I'm way more interested in what I feel I can personally get out of each program. Perhaps I'm a bit naive when I say I'll deal with the real world later. Plenty of time to eat crow then.

-sara
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Old 04-13-2008, 11:23 PM   #20
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Down to four;

Cal Poly
Carnegie Mellon
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Wentworth Institute of Technology

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Old 04-14-2008, 12:05 AM   #21
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No to Syracuse?? How interesting.

Well unless you are really into the engineering thing, than RPI might not be your thing...

Then from there, it's a tie between CP and CMU....
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:47 AM   #22
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Excellent post of decisionmaking

Sara,

Great description of the detailed factors going into your decision. We'll have to see if our numbers come out the same - with not much difference in cost of attendance between the final choices. I think you have the right approach on finding the school that fits you, not necessarily the school that everyone says you should go to (because of rep, rank, etc). I agree with you on the travel evaluation - it is more than just distance. There are some long flights that I'd rather do than medium drives.

When it comes to jobs, while the name of the school may help get you the interview, it seems that your experiences, portfolio and how you express yourself are probably more important for whether you get the job.

It also sounds like you wouldn't be happy working at a place that only cares about what school you went to.

Glad you had a great time at prom!
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:27 AM   #23
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wow, no to Syracuse . By the way .. by any chance does the arch. program at Syracuse contain a bit of engineering? .
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:30 PM   #24
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By the way .. by any chance does the arch. program at Syracuse contain a bit of engineering?

No.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:25 PM   #25
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phoenician,

As I love, and am good at, physics and math I originally was looking for an engineering heavy arch program and was always told go get an engineering degree, then a MArch.

-sara
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:26 PM   #26
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And then there were three....

Cal Poly
Carnegie Mellon
Wentworth Institute of Technology

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Old 04-14-2008, 11:12 PM   #27
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Cal Polyyyy for the win.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:03 AM   #28
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Are you kidding? Carnegie Mellon looks/sounds better than the rest.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:57 AM   #29
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is it possible to apply for MArch without a BArch ?.. I mean I have been taking the most difficult courses in Maths and Physics [ A-Level FURTHER MATHEMATICS & physics] ... AAAAAAHHHH .. !!! Okay , im kind of lost. What do you think of architectural engineering . any good? ... the thing is I cant not do architecture, i have the talent and I really really like it...

PS: VERY CONFUSING POST . I KNOW
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:06 AM   #30
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Yes, you most definitely can do a MArch without a BArch. My daughter is about to graduate with a BA and is entering a MArch degree program in the fall. There are two routes to becoming an architect. One is a BA + MArch and the other is a five year BArch. Either one gets you to the same place. Both lead to licensure. If you do a BArch, while you can become an architect already, you could opt to also get an MArch. Those who enter MArch degree programs with a BA are usually put in what is called the MArch I track and those who enter a MArch coming in with a BArch degree are put in an MArch II track. The MArch II track is shorter in duration since those with a BArch already have a professional degree.
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