Proud Dad

So now you're giving credence to the casual comment in the OP that 70% smoke? Stats?

Now it's a known fact that the best-selling vehicle in the United States has, for the last few decades, been the Ford F-150 pickup truck. And yet many of us resist the temptation. The majority of kids are not vegetarian, yet vegetarians somehow aren't compelled to chew on cow flesh. The most popular flavor of ice-cream is supposed to be vanilla, overwhelmingly and yet I don't waste my calories unless it has chocolate chips in it. Tobacco's hook is that it is addictive. Get over it. It's the truth. So don't start!

I'm pretty sure we've beaten this dead horse enough. Most will agree that there are a lot of smokers at Bard. Probably nowhere near 70% though. And most likely no more on a percentage basis than at Sarah Lawrence, Vassar, or any LAC, or even HYPS.

Those who don't smoke would probably prefer that number to be smaller. It's the same everywhere. Y'all must have something better to do, right? Sheesh.

cadbury

Sheesh ProudDad! I think your response to ackpoor was a tad over the top. I think ackpoor made some good points, and I didn't get the sense the poster was trying to give you parenting tips. I'm almost tempted to ask if you're trying to quit smoking and are having a tough day. But I won't go there. ;-)

Anecdotally my sense is that there were in fact a lot of students smoking at Bard -- more than at any of the other LACs we visited with my D. I suspect that ackpoor is right; that it has become part of the culture at Bard.

Ackpoor

^^ Thank You cadbury

This is going to be my last post on this thread (I'll make it short):

Proud Dad,

1) I DON'T smoke
2) YOU are the one with a major attitude problem
3) My SAT score in writing is Yale material and my other SAT scores are in that range as well (I actually got deferred at Yale recently)
4) I was absolutely NOT giving you parenting tips
5) Although I am only seventeen years old and you are an adult, I am handling this argument in a much more mature manner than you
6) I hold the right of free speech whether you approve of or agree with my words or not
7) ... I DON'T SMOKE!

Done (.)

nastynate0315

"It may not matter to anybody named "nasty" anything, but it matters a lot to many."

LMAO

jhg1963

I have visited many LACs this year and I found the smoking at Bard to be overwhelming. It was pervasive and quite disgusting. Butts were everywhere. Smoke was everywhere.
WAY more than other colleges I toured.
After we saw Bard we started noticing smoking at other schools and it's not the same. Skidmore had more smokers than others, but not as bad as Bard.
Smoking is probably why I won't be going to Bard because I know I could never fit in. Too bad because I loved the school. Visited two times just to make sure. Smoking was just as bad the second time.

applicantsmom

Ackpoor, I think you have a great head on your shoulders! You are very aware and open minded and made your point perfectly without making judgments on anyone. I commend you for being sooo aware at such a young age. It is a sign to me our world is moving in the right direction
signed, parent of Bardian