Hi Ivybound13, do you mind take a look of the link, are you smarter than those professors who wrote the paper? be calm and objective --- Reveal preference ranking.
I am objective. Among other issues, my big problem with this list is that it is 7years old. And the professors wrote the paper. That doesnt mean that they agreed with it.
^i think you are simply based on your opinion, not based on any general facts finding. Those prominent professors gathered info from the facts, and doing scientific modeling. USNews ranking and Forbes ranking are based on their methodology, right or wrong, i respect their efforts and positions. But your attacking brown is baseless and biased. Please calm down and go study more.
The title of the rankings say it all. The rankings are based on student preferences. I mean, did you not read the thread that you linked? I'm not attacking Brown. The simple fact of the matter is, Brown being ivy league does not make it any better than any other school. The OP comes off as a tool who is not only insecure in Brown, but is also bitter towards schools ranked higher than Brown although they are not ivies. I'm just having fun making my point. So yeah, let's be real.
it's probably more insecurity than naiveté. Typically students who come on this forum and bash schools and debate the order of the rankings are trying to make themselves feel better because they feel bad about themselves and view getting into a higher ranking school as validating their worth. Letsbereal wants to go to Brown and needs to elevate its status while ivybound is probably not applying to Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth and thus needs to distance those three as far from his choices as possible.
I agree that there's definitely some insecurity, but there's also a profound naiveté. High school students (and, for that matter, college students at many schools, and beyond -- this same issue makes some people absolutely insufferable in law school, and ensures that they won't last long at a law firm) live in this little constructed world where "success" is measured by a set of explicit measures (grades and scores), and those measures directly determine the next step in life (college admissions). It must be so uncomfortable for these people if they make it all the way to the real world having these ideas, and then realize that hiring (in most fields) and advancement don't operate by the same rules.
I"m a senior by the way. Ok. This is ridiculous. Insecure? Maybe. Confused? not even close. You guys are ridiculous. Go to Brown if you want to, but don't try to push false pretenses on the rest of the world. People don't count on Brown to change the world as much as they do HYPS, Uchicago, Columbia, even UPenn. Why? because that is not what Brown does. It doesn't have the resources, the faculty, or history to do so. This subject is so objective and clear cut that I can't believe someone with a diploma from Brown can actually argue against it. Brown sits in the background and watches other schools change the world. Even as an Ivy League school, Brown doesn't get as much name recognition as Duke or Northwestern. Ask me how I know. Is Brown a good school? Absolutely. But we all know where it really stands. I'm just the only one willing to say so on the Brown thread.
Ivybound, I just can't believe that you're spending your time comparing colleges in a very petty way. As a Brown student, I honestly couldn't care less how the school is seen by other people. For me, it's a great place, and that's what matters.
In terms of name recognition, Brown produce 4 Rhode Scholars this year, how about Duke or Northwestern or even other Ivies. Brown is more focus on undergraduate education when comparing with Duke and Northwestern. That means Brown's undergraduate students after graduate many goes to other great schools like HYPS, etc. Brown's engineering school, med school are very new, it doesn't have business school as of now (it has business program though).
Brown used to focus on liberal arts education like Williams college (Forbes give it rank #2 -http://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/ ). So how do you compare Williams and Duke or Nrothwestern? it is hard, isn't it? Each school has its strength and weakness, find your best fit.
