GrouchoMarxist

and im saying youre wrong. obviously my math background helps and is a selling point on interviews i.e. i work harder in school takin grad courses in courant and overloading on credits. buts its just school. you show up, do problems sets take finals. now someone is paying for you to do something. a huge part of banking is personality. being somewhere TEDIOUS for 100 hours a week. getting stacks of papers thrown at you. Honestly, I've been in both worlds. Ive takin stochastic calculus alongside the harvard, IIT guys and ive sat around til late doing a damn comp and working on a deal sheet. its not difficulty, it just really really sucks. just incomparable. but i agree to some extent, engineering (if youre actually doing well, there are moron who do math/physics/engineering) means youre prob smart and hard working. but there are alot of people like that and much of ibanking isnt intelligence and no one in college has really tested their limits to the fullest extent. i dont even know your point, you think you can handle it, good for you, now go do it. you know what it takes and if you say what you have youre set. it seems your biggest problem will be your attitude. judging by the 20, seems like your time for summer analyst is coming up. good luck, nothing to prove to me, i dont know you.

GrouchoMarxist

oh and i said nothing about stress. the stress of a trading floor is nothing youll ever understand until you step on it, youre full of **** otherwise. seriouslly. Its cracked out. I think its fun.

guguru

groucho, just outta curiuosity, whered u go to skool, and where r u now?

GrouchoMarxist

i was in stern, transferred out to do a double in math and theoretical econ (they dont let ya do a math degree in stern, unlike wharton and sloan). I'll be doing S&T full time at BofA come June.

guguru

is it possible to do a double in finance and statistics in stern

GrouchoMarxist

yea, 2 of my good friends are doing that. I think its a very good combination and gives a good math background, but youre limited to the Stern Stat courses and can't take the grad math dept courses. My good friend who's graduating with me doing finance stat recieved trading offers from Lehman, JP Morgan, Goldman, and Bear Stearns. He's a bit of an all star though.

guguru

r stern stat courses different from the college courses? did ur friend accept any offers n e where?

GrouchoMarxist

yes, they are college courses. you are in college and it is a course. jesus christ. go to the dept website to learn about it (google Stern Statistics, its crazy i know). the lowest grade they give is a B. the classes are damn easy, my math dept wont even count the courses towards my math degree. and i can't talk about what offer he took, thats his business and not mine to post all over the internet, he was just an example.

guguru

i can c y ur name is groucho, when i said college courses, i meant are stern statistics courses the same thing as the stats courses in the regular college, there wasnt really much need for the sarcasm,

GrouchoMarxist

theyre stern mba courses. though that may be changing soon? so i hear. you should really check the website.

nystudent23

if i want to do undergrad business at cornell....... which school do i apply to?

GrouchoMarxist

they only have an mba program at johnson. you apply to the arts and science and do a degree in either economics or applied economics and management. that or any other major.

dazedandconfused88

undergrad business program at Cornell = Applied Economics and Management (AEM) in Agriculture and Life Sciences.

Walden

Groucho:

For thouse who don't know what "Trading" and "Investment Banking" entails, could you give a brief summary? Yes, I know we could google it - but I think it would be more beneficial to learn it from someone who's been through it all.

Also, do you know if any of these big businesses recruit from tech schools like CMU for internships?

ABirch III

"transferred out to do a double in math and theoretical econ"

Hey,

I'm currently a freshman in NYU CAS, and I'm doubling in math and econ (theory track). I'm currently interning at a boutique investment bank. However, I'm more of a trader type than a banker type (I trade FOREX and commodities on my own, and I grew up in the Connecticut hedge fund world).

My question is how helpful do you find the econ major on the trading floor? Do you think I can just get away with a minor and still have a solid grasp of the concepts (which is all I really want since everything else you learn on the job)? Math is my passion so I'm not giving up on that, but having only one tough major and a minor instead of 2 leaves more room for GPA boosting classes if I ever consider grad school down the road, and I can just take a more wide variety of sh1+. Also, any good reccs. on profs/classes?

Thanks.