Aurelius

You need numbers in order to make a ranking. not annecdotal evidence!

AHShockey999

I would put NYU in group 1.

Untilted

"choose a school with more traditionally wealthy students"

true.

onequestion

Nearly all of you are missing a huge point about recruitment.

UNC-CH (Kenan Flagler) does not have as much onsite recruiting in comparison to other schools. Reason? The location is not ideal in comparison to schools nearby NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC, etc. So if the business school has 340 kids graduating with 100 recruiters on campus, most people will think "Oh, not everyone gets a job". Those people are not realizing that sometimes recruiters will have multiple positions. UNC's 100 recruiters is not a lot compared to other schools, but they have 800 (according to recent source) job offers posted online for Kenan-Flagler students.

Huge difference, right?

Also, realize that certain schools are recruited for different elements of business. CMU (Tepper) is recruited for quantitative business (number crunching stuff) while Kenan-Flagler and other schools are recruited for other options.

I'm bringing up Tepper vs kenan-flalger a lot b/c I had to choose b/w those two. I'm going to be an incoming frosh to UNC, and I'm going to be working towards my goal which is to make the business school.

Just my $.02.

jlkirbee

Hey guys.

Just met my cousin who has the Director title at UBS (One of the top Swiss Banks). He makes bank.. meaning $1mil around.. Anyways, how he got to be in IB was weird.

First he went to Champaign (UofI-Urbana) and majored in Political science or something that had not much to do with IB.. then he tried Law School for a year.. that didn't work out, so he went to Business School for 2 years @ Loyola i think... (Not sure if what he told me was Loyola for Biz or for Law) but anyways.. He went that path and now he's making bank. Businesses barely care about what school you go to. As long as it's decent. What they really care about is how you perform during your internships, and during your internships other businesses scout you too. My cousin was going to work for one company and got a call from a bigger company right before leaving college. After that company he just went to UBS.

So guys.. Go to do a decent school it doesn't have to be top notch. It's what you can do. Everything isn't based on what school you go to. You guys all say only couple people get recruited from UNC or U of T or whatnot. Then I say be one of those couple people and work your arse off. Just the way I see it.

Btw my cousin worked long hours in the beginning. But now he goes on frequent vacations. so go fig!

redhare317

It actually does help to go to a good school because that's where the recruiting is done. If you CAN GET INTO a top notch school, you would be wise to go there if you're thinking about banking. School prestige does matter, and any number of examples of people who went to less prestigious schools but still got banking jobs doesn't change that fact. Is it required? No. But is it almost required? I think so.

bern700

jlkirbee: See the thing is that in Investment banking the school you go to does matter a lot because it dictates your chances of even landing a job in the industry...if you look at the industry as a whole it is dominated by the Ivy league and other top schools. There are exceptions of course, like your cousin, but in general if you want to get into the industry you need to attend a target school. For example, out of your cousin's class of a few thousand (don't really know how many at UIUC) I'd venture to guess that less than 30 people landing banking jobs while at schools like HYPW a LARGE percentage of the class ends up in the industry (at wharton for example out of 500 students about 250-300 go into banking).

jlkirbee

yeah i understand but Im just saying that you still have a shot as long as you appeal to the Recruiters . Pretty much if yuo're not in those top schools.. don't expect to be recruited but go out for the job more you know what i mean?

uhyea

I'm not too sure everyone at Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc. are angling to get into ibanking, that such a large percentage of the class would actually go

brazil2007senior

Does anyone know the ranking of the best UNDERGRADUATE ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE programs?

brazil2007senior

i know i posted the question, BUT i found the anwer. SO here it is for who else wants to know:
Top undergraduate Accounting departments according to the US News & World Report:
#1 University of Illinois–Urbana Champaign
#2 University of Texas–Austin (McCombs)
#3 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
#4 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor (Ross)
#5 University of Southern California (Marshall)
#6 New York University (Stern)
#7 University of California–Berkeley (Haas)
#8 Brigham Young University–Provo (Marriott)
#9 Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley)
#9 University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
#11 University of Florida (Warrington)
#11 University of Notre Dame (Mendoza)
#13 Ohio State University–Columbus (Fisher)
#14 Wake Forest University (Calloway) (NC)
#15 University of Washington
#16 Arizona State University (Carey)
#17 University of Arizona (Eller)
#17 University of Georgia (Terry)
#19 Michigan State University (Broad)
#20 Bentley College (MA)
#20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
#20 University of Iowa (Tippie)
#20 University of Wisconsin–Madison
#20 Texas A&M University–College Station (Mays)
#25 Northern Illinois University
#25 University of Alabama (Culverhouse)
#25 University of Minnesota–Twin Cities (Carlson)
#28 Miami University–Oxford (Farmer) (OH)
#28 University of Illinois–Chicago
#28 University of Missouri–Columbia
#28 University of Virginia (McIntire)

Top undergraduate Finance departments according to the US News & World Report:
#1 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
#2 New York University (Stern)
#3 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor (Ross)
#4 University of California–Berkeley (Haas)
#5 University of Texas–Austin (McCombs)
#6 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
#7 Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley)
#8 Ohio State University–Columbus (Fisher)
#9 Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper)
#10 University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler)
#10 University of Southern California (Marshall)
#10 University of Virginia (McIntire)
#13 University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign
#14 Pennsylvania State University–University Park (Smeal)
#15 University of Florida (Warrington)
#15 University of Washington
#15 University of Wisconsin–Madison
#18 Boston College (Carroll)
#18 Purdue University–West Lafayette (Krannert)
#20 University of Notre Dame (Mendoza)
#20 Washington University-St. Louis (Olin)
#22 CUNY–Baruch College (Zicklin)
#22 University of Illinois–Chicago
#22 University of Maryland–College Park (Smith)

karan89

what about emory?

Alexandre

Emory 's B-School, Goizuetta, is actually quite good. In the same league as Notre Dame, Georgetown etc...

HPM_twista89

What about Amherst? Merrill Lynche founder is an alum from Amherst. Doesn't this make recruiters to come to Amherst? Actually this is why I chose to apply to Amherst instead of Claremont McKenna, Williams, or Swarthmore (I only want to apply to one LAC). Did I make a bad choice if I want to pursue my career in MC or IB?

Alexandre

Merrill Lynch is spelled that way...no "e" at the end of Lynch. And no, the fact that Charles Merrill studied at Amherst and the University of Michigan over 100 years ago does not mean that the entire MC and IB world necessarily will recruit more heavily at those schools than at others.

This said, Amherst happens to be highly recruited anyway, not because Charles Merrill is an alum of sorts, but because it is an excellent college in its own right. However, in my experience, Williams is generally more heavily recruited by MCs and IBs and colleges like Middlebury, Haverford, Wesleyan and Colgate, among others, are just as highly recruited as Amherst.