uhyea

Exaclty, why are you complaining? Also, it seems like you have no retort to the fact that my view, which is supported by a very well respected magazine (whether you notice it or not). Maybe you should think before you make stupid comments like that.

Pre-medwannabe

uhyea, don't worry about him, he is in a bad mood or something today, going around challenging everyone as if he is donald trump! lmao

mssales

There must be some pretty smart kids at Morehouse, and Howard.

gatorade

BW is a well respected magazine. But it is also true that it is a for-profit magazine. The website that has the rankings also has a large advertisement for Indiana Univeristy - Kellog, which I'm sure they paid lots of money for. Coincidence?

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...9/b3983401.htm

Also on that site, "Indeed, nine of the Top 10 undergraduate programs have highly ranked MBA programs as well."

Coincidence? No, thats because their methodology of ranking favors schools with better MBA programs because of faculty ranking and "academic quality". To my knowledge, they don't even take the student body into consideration.

dcfca

Really? They're well respected? I don't think so. At least their rankings anyway. When you look at MBA rankings they ranked Northwestern as #1 and Harvard as #5. Are you going to believe that too? The Business Week rankings/methodology aren't great. Whether you like to believe it or not.

You're just biased because you're probably looking to go to Indiana in the future and seeing it well ranked is making you feel all warm and fuzzy inside and inflating your ego.

tripperian35

dcfca - why are jealous? Y cant u see that IU is one of the best b-schools?

mssales

Do all the IB firms recurit at Howard, and Morehouse?

dcfca

most do. Even Lazard recruits at Howard and they're considered to be very elite when it comes to recruiting.

consider it one stop shopping.

uhyea

HAHAHAH, actually dcfca I do currently go to IU, and your saying i dont know much about this industry or its placement, thats odd since I have an internship w/ one of the largest bb firms there is this summer. Also i noticed that you go to ut-austin and you are acting like an elitist when it comes to ibanking, if im not mistaken you website indicates 59 students going into ibanking this year, and hey isnt that strange, thats the same number of students going to ib from iu this year. Once again, you should make sure you have some validity behind your comments before you speak, you will keep on giving ut-austin a bad name if you continue this behavior. Also, you can keep coming up with convoluted reasons why the rankings were created as they do, but your not going to get much favor with your reasoning. I also believe that northwesterns mba quality is arguably at a similar level as a harvard mba, per their placement, but thats not what we are arguing here, maybe a few years down the line you can make more dumb comments and we can argue about mba programs then.

Dcho711

well im goin to IU in fall and i personally dont feel IU kelley is a "target" school not just yet, the ones posted in the BB's firms are gona be the best of the best and schools like IU would obviously not be posted there but IU is gud enough for the ibanks to know about it and come on campus for recruiting so it aint wharton but it is respectable enough to have the oppurtunities. and in regards to "backoffice and frontoffice" jobs that would probaly depend on the qualifications of the IU kelley student. im prety sure a 3.7+ kelley student with solid background should be able to get a "gud" position at a prestigious firm if the interviewer likes em.

gatorade

dcfca: were you talking to me? i never said their ranking system was accurate for undergrad or MBA. i said they were manipulating the rankings to make profit.

http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschool...te/06rankings/
How does CMU get a C for job placement when it has a 55k average starting salary, 11k more than Indiana grads? CMU also is ranked #2 behind wharton for academic quality, but obviously that doesn't matter.

Also, they only look at in-state tuition for public schools, even though some pay out of state. In-state schools get an automatic boost by that.

I JUST DONT GET THIS!
CMU, the one school I chose as an example for schools that got ripped off by BW, has an academic ranking of 2 and is tied for first in starting salary. Aren't those the two most important factors that business students are worried about? But it manages to get 16th.

mssales

How is Howard's placement though?

Pre-medwannabe

apparently very good. especially with elite places.

dcfca

it's probably the top students who go to Howard that get recruited. It's an easy way to help make sure banks are pretty diverse.

mssales

I want some diversity action, crap even though I'm black when I look up scholarships and crap on the UNCF, etc.. you have to go to a HSBCU. Thats crap.

Oh well..IU will have to suffice. But, IU has a lot of scholarship opps.