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04-27-2006, 05:22 PM
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#91 | | Junior Member
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| "basically everybody is wrong?"
Who is everyone? And wrong about what?
I agree with Wharton and also think UVa as #2 is a pretty good idea. I've never heard of Emory before my college application process, but I'm sure its well regarded in the south. I heard it has more of a regional recognition.
Unless you believe the top talent choose their ug b-school unwisely, why don't we look at which schools they tend to flock to? Wharton, Ross, Sloan, McIntire, Haas, Cornell, WashU etc. Also, a lot of the top talent decide to major in engineering/econ at a top 25 school while knowing all along that they will end up in business. |
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04-27-2006, 05:22 PM
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#92 | | Member
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| dude..do u want me to tell you again..they are NOT getting top positions from those companies...maybe they will land jobs in operations or janitorial services..but not the most sought after |
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04-27-2006, 05:23 PM
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#93 | | Junior Member
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| its so different from usnews one!
hmm not sure which is more reliable |
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04-27-2006, 05:25 PM
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#94 | | Member
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| Well, both USNews and Business Week are wrong. |
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04-27-2006, 05:26 PM
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#95 | | Member
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| they want to sell magazines...if they were so predictable nobody would buy them..don't you get that |
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04-27-2006, 05:27 PM
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#96 | | Member
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| But I knew IU would be in the top 10, before the rankings came out, it's not unpredictable at all. |
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04-27-2006, 05:30 PM
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#97 | | Junior Member
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| thats true but shouldnt they at least have some kinda similar flow?
how is emory at 5th and cmu at 16th
while usnews rank emory 17th and cmu 5th or something
too radical, i mean...
(and i got accepted at both schools so i am confused!)
people still agree that Tepper is better than Goizueta tho, dont they? |
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04-27-2006, 05:31 PM
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#98 | | Junior Member
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| Emory 2010. BusinessWeek made my decision look really good! |
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04-27-2006, 05:32 PM
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#99 | | Member
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| I find the idea of Miami University in Ohio being ranked that high absurd. I don't understand the index scores in the ranking, either. |
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04-27-2006, 05:33 PM
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#100 | | Member
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| And as a reminder, business rankings don't really matter because firms don't just recruit business students. Firms just want high quality students, and the buisness school is only component of a school that they recruit from. |
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04-27-2006, 05:37 PM
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#101 | | Member
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| man who cares guys  we are wastin every minute of our life that we can never get back arguin the validity of BW ranking or which school is better. yes IU is probaly not better than haas and yes cornell is probaly slightly better but who cares? what i do know is that IU is gud ENOUGH to have at least a decent shot or an oppurtunity to get the ______(list job you want) you want provided you worked hard  |
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04-27-2006, 05:40 PM
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#102 | | Member
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| No, apparently at IU, you won't have the oppurtunity to get a top job.
But seriously, If you're qualified you'll get the job, hell even some students at my school get good jobs with GE, etc. |
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04-27-2006, 05:41 PM
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#103 | | Junior Member
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| I personally feel that there are only a few schools worth going to for undergrad business. There are a lot of programs where I don't see the long term value of an ug business degree. A business degree does not give you a free ticket into upper level management later in one's career. In the end, the most ambitious and talented students will make it to the top, whether they studied business, engineering, economics, or something unrelated.
I heard somewhere that business is the most popular undergrad major in the United States. I have to ask Why? Outside a small core of schools(Indiana is included in the core), a business degree is not really that marketable since everyone can study it. Sure, top students from even mediocre schools will get good jobs. But for the vast majority of students who land somewhere in the middle, above or below, there were better options. Like receiving a more academic education (rather than pre-professional).
Engineers and quant. economics majors have equal success in business, if not more. In my opinion, that is because not everyone can do it, unlike a business major(if you're not heavy quant). Completing an engineering curriculum shows much more about your ability than completing a business major at a school like VTech or Penn State or places that have ridiculously huge ug business schools. Many students at these schools who study business simply study it for the dough. And at many schools, business majors do a lot less work. They don't want to learn, they don't want an education, they just want $$$. They want that rubber stamp that will allow them to go out into the business. I don't like this philosophy one bit. Without working hard, you cannot be successful(working at daddy's company doesn't make u successful).They don't seem to understand that a majority of business majors don't land the top jobs. If you look at the executives at Fortune 500 companies, you'll see that most of them have a strong background in either engineering or in the liberal arts, later followed up with an MBA.
I might be wrong about Kelley, but I think an average Kelley student would have been better off challenging himself in a different major/university and developing more as an academic student. With that said, the top kids at Kelly seem to be getting a good deal with plentiful job opportunities. However, I wish that they too would expand their academic horizons and stop worrying about the dough.
Perhaps, I'm biased and uninformed. Feel free to tell me so if you think I am. After all, I'm not even studying business(though I was considering it). Instead, I will be studying Econ at Northwestern.
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04-27-2006, 05:46 PM
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#104 | | Member
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| Engineering majors, are in a league of there own, they just seem to be adepth at anything. I think you hit it on the head though, the most ambitous, and hardworking ones will be the ones who make it to the top. |
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04-27-2006, 05:47 PM
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#105 | | Senior Member
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