lisieux

Does Financial Management = Finance?? thanks

quag_mire

lol, i absolutely refuse to believe that Cornell trumps Wharton and Stern for finance...I've always had this feeling that Cornell has been colluding with BW to make the rankings favor cornell....i started suspecting this when cornell's undergraduate "business" program was ranked 4th overall, and now it's ranked #1 for finance lol wth??

lisieux

Lol... honestly which one is more reliable, US News of Business Week??

Calcruzer

USNW is more highly rated generally, and their sub-rankings in areas like business tend to be more valid (unlike their general rankings which add in stupid things like alumni contribution rates).

Business Week is good in that they add in things like placement rates, quality of facilities, and faculty rankings. However, what really makes them less valid is the fact that they use both student rankings (highly subjective at certain schools where people rank the school highly just to stay at the top of the BW rankings) and also because they use recruiters' rankings--which tend to focus not only on the quality of the students interviewed, but also on whether they were treated well by the placement office. For example, two years ago UC Berkeley moved way up the BW ranking when it was pointed out that they were sending limos to pick up all the recruiters flying in. This past year UC Berkeley ranking dropped significantly as that practice was discontinued due to UC budget cuts--and the practice being questioned by the local media.
Some wonder whether similar things are happening at Cornell--since the school moved from #12 to #4 to #1 during the past three years.

zoolander

i would look at us news's top 10 and businessweek rest of the rankings
i think us news is pretty dead on in terms of top 10 but the teens are a little messed up.

wharton4life

Take the info from BW's ranking with a grain of salt, noticing that this is only their third edition. Many of the schools can attest to the transient nature of their rankings.

zoolander

BW is a little better than Us news in some respect

i mean they have some really bad state colleges over georgetown, BC, emory

lisieux

You guys are making me think twice again to choose UVA over Berkeley and CMU. Yikessss if no ranking is reliable enough then how do I choose!!

wharton4life

lisieux, if you want a fine, reputable education, you should definately choose UVA. It has it all: great teachers, beautiful campus, and stellar reputation. When I was selecting business schools, UVA was one of my top choices. They try very hard to compete with some of the Ivy League schools, especially through their honors program. With "AccessUVa," they have even adopted a similar financial aid policy, trying to attract qualified students of all socioeconomic and geographic backgrounds. I'm not trying to discredit the other schools, but you will not regret UVA.

P.S. It also never hurts to apply to Wharton

zoolander

12. Ohio State University–Columbus (Fisher) * 3.9
12. U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign * 3.9
12. Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison * 3.9
12. Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) 3.9
18. Pennsylvania State U.–University Park (Smeal) * 3.8
18. Univ. of Minnesota–Twin Cities (Carlson) * 3.8
18. University of Notre Dame (IN) 3.8
21. Georgetown University (McDonough) (DC) 3.7
21. Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)* 3.7
21. University of Arizona (Eller) * 3.7
21. Univ. of Maryland–College Park (Smith) * 3.7
25. Arizona State University (Carey) * 3.6
25. University of Washington * 3.6
27. Babson College (MA) 3.5
27. Boston College (Carroll) 3.5


I am referring to this particular section of the rankings

i agree with like the top 10

hikids

As I had said before in other places, I think you are nuts to rely on the rankings, particlarly for an undergraduate degree. For example, look at the locations of Cornell vs Wharton in terms of access to major business firms. Wharton kids easily have access to and exploit their location on the Northeast corridor trainline almost without thought. It is a much tougher trick from Cornell, just on location. Most of the top schools major schools are good. I think there can be some legitimate issues with some of the smaller schools that have bubbled up. It has been argued that BW has a private school bias because of they way they do the rankings. Highly diverse schools won't make it some claim.

minhtrung1811

I think financial managements is not the same as finance.

silyaznfoo

Hmmm... how much should I base my college choices on the rankings (based solely on academic reliability)? I mean is UNC Chapel Hill really better than Georgetown, UVA? Btw can somebody point me to the stronger schools out of the following that I'm looking at: Wharton, USC Marshall, UVA McIntire, WashU Olin, Vandy, Duke, Brown, Columbia, Cornell AEM and CAS, Harvard, G-town McDonough, UCBerkeley, Northwestern and UChicago?
Btw I'm interested in Finance.