and1swish90

The odds may be good, but the goods are odd. @ CMU hahahaha

Milton Roark

Going past the debate on the strength of each business program, you may want to consider which school is going to offer better general qualities. NYU is very much a "non-campus" university. You're essentially paying to live in New York and take classes. There isn't much of an NYU campus life (compared to other colleges). If you want a "campus life/atmosphere", do not go to NYU. If you want to live in the city, and enjoy going out with a few people you know (vs. "campus activities), go to NYU.

2331clk

You have a good choice to make, 2 top but very different schools.

Few things about CMU (parent of CMU grad '05):

Pittsburgh's a nice city. Plenty to do. Most CMU students really like the place. Remember UPitt is practically next door. That's about 40,000total ug and grad students in same area of Pittsburgh, very student friendly...lots of coffeeshops, bookstores, restaurants etc. It's a good college town.

Plenty of nerds at CMU but enough non-nerds too. Most nerds are clustered in CS and engineering. There's a strong Fine Arts influence too (same as NYU).

M/F is 60/40, which is better than plenty of tech heavy schools.

Tepper is small. Only 93 enter per year. Stern by comparison is huge, 2300 total ug so about 600 enter per year if I understand the stats correctly from Stern website. That size difference is something to consider, whether good or bad.

Although NYU is in NYC, the financial capital of the world, it's not like you're going to attend class, then hurry downtown same day for an internship, at least I don't think so. Basically they are summer positions. The fact CMU's in Pgh doesn't work against getting internships in NY or anywhere, the same as ANY school not in NYC (ie 99% of US universities).

Consider too...S (not Tepper grad, but CS/IS double major w/ management masters so he took a # of business and mgt courses at CMU) spent 5 great years in Pgh, loved the school, and it's possible he could spend the next few decades in NYC where he now lives and works. Perhaps at a better time, with a paycheck and no homework. Most of his friends it seems are in Manhattan, many (like him) working for investment banks.

deadlysyphen

kids do get internships during the year.

Calcruzer

Getting jobs in NY would be easier at Stern, but I agree that everything but finance majors get shafted there (which is why about 80% of Stern majors in finance).

CMU, like I've said on other posts need to upgrade half of their facilities (half are like brand-new and the other half are really old--why not do a bit of a makeover on the older half?). Nevertheless, it is great for those doing a CIS/Finance/Math mix--so if you are a math wiz, but not going for finance, then CMU is your place.

Talking about the odds are good but goods are odd--I presume most people on here are aware that about 20% of the NYU men fall into the LGBT persuasion--and also that everyone there smokes. If you are into that, then no problem--if not, then don't go there.

NYU has "no" campus--but it's campus is kind of the whole of greenwich village. CMU is on the east side of downtown Pittsburgh in a pretty good area, but Pittsburgh is not exactly the cultural capital of the world. On the other hand, for those who actually want to meet someone, and settle down, the area outside of Pittsburgh is actually very nice (better than the surrounding mass transit nightmare of NY/NJ/southern CT), and the costs are much more reasonable. The area is growing quickly and Pittsburgh actually has six colleges, meaning that it is a much more college-centric lifestyle than the rush-rush-rush pace of NY.

In summary, some people will love NY, some will hate it--but don't pick the college entirely by the city--although it should come at least somewhat into your decision.

deadlysyphen

it's closer to 70%, and that includes people double-majoring in something else in addition to finance. taken with the fact that 98% of kids get a job by three months after graduation, you don't have to major in finance in order to get a job. now whether the job is good or not is a different matter.

i know i'm not really adding to the conversation, but i think the number is closer to 30%. so NYU is 40% male, with 30% LGBT. but it may be good to know that stern is 57% guys.

eternalsunshin3

Thanks for all your help, guys. I visited Pittsburgh, as I said; to be honest, I really couldn't see myself being there for the next four (or more) years, and I think that will be the deciding factor. I've grown rather fond of this area in the 12ish years that I've lived here. Plus, they don't have good bagels.

That's not the only reason, obviously. :P After doing a bit more research into finance (long overdue), it actually is looking more attractive (Yay for sounding like an opportunist!).

And do Sternies get internships during the school year? Although I guess I should ask the career center that or something...But if they do, then being in NYC is a big boon; even the CMU admissions officer told me that.

Oh well. Again, thanks to everyone who took the time to post. Both schools are amazing, and I'm just sad that I have to turn one down.

Calcruzer

Yes, people at NYU can get internships in NYC easier than those going to school outside of the area. (makes sense, doesn't it).

Thanks deadlysyphen for the updates. Note that I'm not arguing against Stern, just pointing out that if the OP was planning to major in Production Managment or Marketing (instead of Finance or Accouting), she is likely to be disappointed by the lack of variety in courses. If you check my previous postings, you'll see that I rank Stern ahead of Wharton when it comes to undergraduate finance (and I get a lot of "heat" for that continuously from other posters).

Good luck, eternalsunshin3. It sounds like you've made your decision. (It's good to be able to choose between two excellent schools.)

zoolander

i think production management is CMU all the way
i think that is what CMU's business program like was originally for