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11-07-2009, 06:10 AM
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I would personally go with Texas if I was instate. I don't think NYU is worth a 40K education. I've studied there for 1 year. Life in the nyc as a college student is expensive and not a party atmosphere like it seems to be. Furthermore in this volatile economy, many Stern graduates do not work as i-bankers but instead lower end finance jobs. Last I heard, a stern econ. grad worked as an office secretary because he couldn't find any jobs.
That said I think Texas is a better fit if your an instate resident.
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11-07-2009, 09:12 AM
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Yes, if you are in-state at Texas, it is impossible to justify not going there if you're accepted. Also, it's a lot closer than what the people at the bottom of the previous page would have you believe. My guess is they probably aren't very familiar with b-schools and are just saying the one they've heard the most about.
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11-07-2009, 12:42 PM
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If I was in-state I'd go to mccombs also unless you get some serious financial aid from nyu making it much cheaper.
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11-09-2009, 02:53 PM
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alright, i have been browsing these forums for a while now and havent posted for a while, but i am just going to have to on this.
i was in a similar situation, having been accepted to usc, stern, and taking a good look at emory. i also recently graduated from usc so i can speak for marshall.
take a note that the schools you picked are all regional schools. ask yourself where you want to work, that will help narrow down where you want to go to school.
academics - at usc, it really depends on the class and the prof teaching the class. some classes are engaging with lots of group work and discussion, while some are not so much. its hard to make a finance class or accounting interesting, and they try. i can only assume its the same situation at other schools. even though usc is a private school, there is no grade inflation. usc's administration has taken steps in the past to eliminate grade inflation.
job placement - usc placement in california is tops. i would assume its good in texas too, since i got a pretty hi-demand job offer in texas. the only schools that compare or are at least better for 'business major jobs' are stanford, cal, and ucla. outside of cali, its a different story, though your employer could send you somewhere outside of cali....people mostly come to usc to work in cali, and people who go to nyu go to work in nyc..... it comes down to location, buddy.
facilities - marshalls's are just ok. stern's building looks pretty pimp from the outside. but you have better things to consider other than facilities.
off campus exp - depends on the city. la is seriously awesome. so is nyc. austin is a bad ass college town, and also very fun. ask yourslef if you want and urban exp or a college exp. in which case, usc will give you both. this was also a big factor for me. ill break it down like this: nyu and ut in a pot and mixed them up, you would get something that looks like usc.
overall exp - i am obviously biased, and i am going to have to go with sc. once you go, youre like automatically friends with any one who went. its a phenomenon unique to just a handful of schools. def take a look at the joint business/cinematic arts major at usc, if film really is your passion.
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11-09-2009, 03:26 PM
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and to clear some bad information on this discussion:
usc's marshall school does not model itself to mccombs. i would like to see an objective and credible statement to this fact (other then some internet guy said so) before i believe that.
i HIGHLY DOUBT that ut sends 1/5 kids into ib and 1/5 into consulting. mccombs has some 4500 undergrads. that translates into 900 kids going into ib and 900 into consulting. and if that were the case, wall street would be saturated with ut grads. again, unless there is some employment report that proves this to be fact, its BS. and i dont think that OP is concerned with this anyway.
i also HIGHLY DOUBT ut has the best or anywhere near the best career services in the country. i wont go into detail with this, it should be obvious.
also, businessweek is a pretty weak resource for b school rankings. i am not the type to taking rank seriously, but again, it should be pretty obvious that bweek sucks in comparison to usnews.
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11-09-2009, 05:18 PM
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i HIGHLY DOUBT that ut sends 1/5 kids into ib and 1/5 into consulting. mccombs has some 4500 undergrads. that translates into 900 kids going into ib and 900 into consulting. and if that were the case, wall street would be saturated with ut grads. again, unless there is some employment report that proves this to be fact, its BS. and i dont think that OP is concerned with this anyway.
| I agree with this. Even at the top schools like Wharton, only about 30 people max make it into the banking/consulting industry (taking into account boutiques and such, not just BBs). I highly doubt that 1/5 people from UT get into both of those industries. UT has a good amount of banks and such recruiting for good positions, especially in Texas, but there is no way UT sends 1/5 people in each industry, and 2/10 in total for those two ridiculously competitive industries. Even if you meant 1/5 finance grads get into those, I still highly, highly doubt that there is that good of placement even at Ross, much less McCombs.
Besides, the OP wants a good theatre program, so since that's important to you, NYU tisch is the best choice, followed by USC. If you want the total package though (academics, sports, etc.), I'd say go to USC, especially if you want to live anywhere near Cali/the west coast actually.
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11-09-2009, 05:39 PM
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from looking at the recruitment website at UT - from the integrated MPA graduating class of 2008 20 out of 214 went into IB or consulting, in 2007 27 out of 240, in 2006 20 out of 227,
unfortunately, the bba isn't split into numbers, only percentages, and it shows that for the 2009 graduating class 37% went into either IB or consulting.
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11-09-2009, 05:44 PM
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also, businessweek is a pretty weak resource for b school rankings. i am not the type to taking rank seriously, but again, it should be pretty obvious that bweek sucks in comparison to usnews.
| 2010 USNWR rankings for undergrad business schools with their peer assessment score (which is what they rank them by).
1. Penn 4.8
2. MIT 4.6
2. UC-Berkeley 4.6
4. Michigan 4.5
5. NYU 4.4
6. UT-Austin 4.3
6. UNC 4.3
6. UVA 4.3
9. Carnegie Mellon 4.2
10. Cornell 4.1
10. USC 4.1
12 Indiana 4.0
13 Emory 3.9
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11-09-2009, 05:59 PM
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UT Austin is pretty good from what I'm aware of.
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11-09-2009, 06:02 PM
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37% is unrealistic. how big is the graduating class btw? around 1000? 1000 * 37% = 370 = still unrealistic.
k, i am looking at this 'princeton review' ranking for 'best career services' and the top ten ranking is as follows:
u of florida
barnard
clemson
northeastern
ut austin
penn state
clarmeont mckenna
sweet briair
rose hullman institute of tech (?? never heard of this school?)
yale
so, this ranking doesnt imply jack****, unfortunately. i would like to know what kind of objective measures they used. otherwise, just forget about.
and is mccombs lying or something? or are they just a yr or two too slow? b/c its not #1.
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11-09-2009, 06:10 PM
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ut is pretty good from what i am aware of, too. but not that good.
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11-09-2009, 06:25 PM
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and is mccombs lying or something? or are they just a yr or two too slow? b/c its not #1.
| No, I do remember Princeton Review rating them #1 in career services a couple years ago. Quote: |
ut is pretty good from what i am aware of, too. but not that good.
| By "that" I'm assuming you mean Top 3(Penn, MIT, UCB) good. If so, I could agree with you. But UT-Austin is Top 10 Good.
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11-09-2009, 06:30 PM
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you know its funny, but i just noticed that masrhal's old dean is now the dean at mccombs. so i think you got that last statement backwards. i think mccombs is trying to model itself after marshall.
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11-09-2009, 06:39 PM
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so what youre saying is mccombs is a couple yrs too slow.
there is def elite ugrad b school programs, and then the rest. ill break it down like this (and this is my OPINION): top tier = wharton/haas/sloan/ross, and after that, the rank deosnt matter. so saying ut is 'top ten good' doesnt say much. being in the top ten ugrad bachool rank is kind of like being in the top 50 usnews rankings.
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