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10-15-2011, 09:14 AM
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| I always thought UoT was rated highly, not McGill high, but still high.
Does having a US name of the resume help in getting a job in Canada?
I see the logic of Ivies, FA considered, but else, I always thought Canadians going to the US for studies was a bit pointless.
Canadian employers tend to be pretty impressed by famous American schools on one's résumé, certainly the Ivies but also the Stanfords, Berkeleys, Dukes, and UCLAs. Part of it is that not many applicants in Canada will have these degrees. Part of it is that Canadians, though we generally would refuse to admit it, tend to have a bit of an inferiority complex with regard to famous American institutions; we hold them in awe, mythologize them, see them as somehow of a higher calibre than what we have to offer. This typically amounts to such an applicant standing out from the crowd, as something 'special', in the eyes of Canadian employers.
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10-15-2011, 04:30 PM
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But swathes of the US are full of fat, ugly, red neck, idiots. Ok California is tops and DC is good, maybe a nod to NY, but the entire middle bit is like one big anus.
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10-15-2011, 07:08 PM
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10-15-2011, 07:21 PM
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Yeah Canadians love to see UCLAs, UCBerks, Dukes and IVYs but there are SOOO many Canadians that think there are only 10-15 good schools in the US (IVYs, UCLA +UCB, Stanford, Duke, UMICH, etc) and the rest are inferior to their Canadian Universities. A LOT of people and employers in Canada would generally think of schools like Rice, Tulane, Northwestern, Fordham, Emory (schools that aren't University of "X", X being location or schools that haven't been mentioned in NCAA sports or Hollywood flicks) as no-name schools being schools that wouldn't even rank top 300 MBA programs.
Lol, health sciences at UToronto as an undergrad is suicide. Speaking from the experiences told to me by the 15+ people that went to UT, I wouldn't go there. And also for UT Commerce (Rotman), if you can't maintain a 75 (a B by Ontario standards), you get kicked out of the St. Georges campus.
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10-15-2011, 09:58 PM
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Lol, health sciences at UToronto as an undergrad is suicide. Speaking from the experiences told to me by the 15+ people that went to UT, I wouldn't go there. And also for UT Commerce (Rotman), if you can't maintain a 75 (a B by Ontario standards), you get kicked out of the St. Georges campus.
| Lol artsies have nothing to complain about. They should spend some time here in engineering |
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10-16-2011, 12:01 AM
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there are SOOO many Canadians that think there are only 10-15 good schools in the US (IVYs, UCLA +UCB, Stanford, Duke, UMICH, etc) and the rest are inferior to their Canadian Universities.
| I have this mentality too. I feel like if I can't get into any of those select few schools, then I might as well go back to Canada, just because the best Canadian universities (McGill, U of T, UBC) are better than the rest of the U.S. schools. (Plus, as a Canadian citizen, they're cheaper.)
...either that, or I could fly away to England and become a lawyer at Cambridge. :P (For the record, I did actually apply to read Law.)
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10-16-2011, 10:53 AM
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Calgirl is right in that McGill, U of T, UBC are better than the vast majority of U.S. schools. They are only bettered by the Ivies, Stanford, MIT etc.
If a Canadian has a choice of say McGill or Georgetown, well McGill wins easily.
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10-16-2011, 12:11 PM
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@ UKdude84: Personally, I'd definitely choose McGill over Georgetown.  In fact, if I had to choose between Cornell and McGill, I'd find that a very hard decision to make...
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10-16-2011, 12:23 PM
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UK Dude:
I have lived in Chicago. Your stereotypes in no way fit Chicago, which is a GREAT city.
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10-16-2011, 02:08 PM
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Oh man, it was (a) a joke and (b) obviously there are exceptions. Chicago is a global city and in genetic influx keeps the number of obese, stupid Americans down.
They all seem to gather elsewhere.
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10-16-2011, 02:17 PM
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@ #23, maybe better then Dartmouth too.
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10-16-2011, 02:18 PM
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...either that, or I could fly away to England and become a lawyer at Cambridge. :P (For the record, I did actually apply to read Law.)
| calgirl, make sure you're fully informed if you truly are considering this. You will not be able to practice in either Canada or the U.S. and without current immigration status in the UK, are unlikely to be able to get a job there.
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10-16-2011, 02:31 PM
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The market for law is dead everywhere.
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10-16-2011, 04:34 PM
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Setting money issues aside, I would pick the top US private over UToronto, Mcgill or UBC: Smaller class sizes, better undergrad experience, more exclusivity since its harder to get it. Yes, UT, Mcgill and UBC may have a higher worldwide ranking/are better but that is based on research and their graduate programs. All the good stuff the school is known for in these rankings aren't very accessible to the students. Maybe I am generalizing too much.
But yeah, it is 6k-12k vs. 50k a year so that becomes a big factor. If I had to borrow or it came out of my own pocket, I would choose Mcgill over UMich, UCLA and Notre Dame. It would be a hard decision if it was Mcgill over Northwestern, Duke or Gtown.
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10-17-2011, 03:16 AM
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@ alwaysamom: I appreciate your concern.  I'm in a bit of a unique situation, though, since I hold permanent resident status in Singapore (which was formerly a British colony). There are many Singaporean students who go to the UK to earn degrees in medicine and law before returning to Singapore. So I might follow that route if I don't get into any of my American choices. Granted, Cambridge is a LOT more expensive than McGill, so the difference in cost will definitely be taken into account should I be admitted to both schools...
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