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In term of prestige.. where does CMU stand?

poppoppoppop Posts: 44Registered User Junior Member
edited February 2013 in Carnegie Mellon University
Talking about prestige alone... is CMU at the same level as U of Chicago, Northwestern, JHU.. and abit higher than Michigan??? What do you guys think?
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Replies to: In term of prestige.. where does CMU stand?

  • rbanerjeerbanerjee Posts: 223Registered User Junior Member
    Are u kidding? CMU, in terms of engineering and computer science, CMU is way ahead of all of those schools, except for maybe JHU. The engineering program at CMU is comparable to only two schools stanford and MIT. That's why all those companies recruit CMU people so much more than other schools
  • poppoppoppop Posts: 44Registered User Junior Member
    I mean overall... university as a whole.. by the way.. I thought other than CS and maybe ECE... CMU is still behind Berkeley.. Cal Tech... UIUC and U Mich.. am i right?
  • nomoresatsnomoresats Posts: 113Registered User Junior Member
    UIUC isn't that good
  • rbanerjeerbanerjee Posts: 223Registered User Junior Member
    CMU is definitely not behind umich and uiuc in terms of engineering. I think it is on par with berkeley, caltech and slightly ahead of uiuc and umich.
  • lkf725lkf725 Posts: 4,781Registered User Senior Member
    You should post this question on boards of CMU's "peer institutions" too, if you want to get a more meaningful set of answers.
    http://www.cmu.edu/ira/peer_institutions.htm
  • bearcatsbearcats Posts: 4,320Registered User Senior Member
    " I think it is on par with berkeley, caltech and slightly ahead of uiuc and umich."

    CMU is definitely not ahead of umich in terms of engineering, i would say they are pretty much equal, look at the grad school rankings and even the US News undergrad ranking..

    plus CMU as a whole doesnt compare to berkeley and umich. Berkeley has EVERY SINGLE department rank in the top 15 and michigan has every single department but chemistry ranked in the top 15...CMU is really good for business, engineering and architecture but it's definitely lopsided....
  • 2331clk2331clk Posts: 1,656Registered User Senior Member
    Berkeley and Michigan do have top rated programs down the line. A lot has to do with faculty (and much of that to their graduate programs). Of course it doesn't mean for the average undergrad sitting in humongous classrooms fighting red tape (esp at Berkeley) that it's the best educational experience.

    I agree CMU is more "lopsided"...I think it has a lot to do with its roots as a technical school, so subjects like history and philosophy and foreign languages weren't emphasized. What it does, it does well.
  • Pat2323Pat2323 Posts: 635Registered User Member
    I would most definately put CMU ahead of Michigan. Although Michigan is a top-notch program, a CMU degree is MUCH more highly regarded, even in the liberal arts. CMU gets a lot of press for engineering, buisness and the sciences, but it also has top programs in music, theater, architecture, and english.
  • lkf725lkf725 Posts: 4,781Registered User Senior Member
    Here's who CMU views as their peers. From the OP, Northwestern is the only one on the list. JHU, Chicago and Michigan are not (not that they don't deserve to be...I wonder who they consider their peers?) There is quite a variety of schools here, all good in their own right, but I don't see that they are all very similar.
    Cal Tech
    Cornell
    Duke
    Emory
    Georgia Tech
    MIT
    Northwestern
    Princeton
    Renssalear
    Rice
    Stanford
    Penn
    WUStL
  • lori729lori729 Posts: 63Registered User Junior Member
    Remember U of C doesn't have an engineering school or undergraduate B-School, (I don't think they have studio art either, but I could be wrong on that), so it is hard to evaulate in reference to CMU.
  • AcceptedAlreadyAcceptedAlready Posts: 2,634Registered User Senior Member
    Berkeley and Umich are great for Grad, but for Ugrad I would place CMU's amazing connections, research options, personalized learning environment, and overall reputation in the academic/job force above that of Cal/Umich.

    I believe one goes to college primarily to learn and to get a start on a great future and CMU surpasses these schools in both these criteria with esteemed accessible professors at the Ugrad level, low student:teacher ratios, and an unsurpassed Job network.
  • aquamarineeaquamarinee Posts: 3,028Registered User Senior Member
    How is CMU in terms of its Economics and Business networking?
  • AcceptedAlreadyAcceptedAlready Posts: 2,634Registered User Senior Member
    I don't know about Economics but Tepper has been rising extremely fast in both selectivity, funding, prestige, job networking, and yield. Newsweek's article that labled Carnegie Mellon as the hottest school for a job also mentioned Tepper as a school that was a peer and a match of Wharton. The new freshman class also had many that chose the school over Stern, at least much more than a couple years ago. Just about all the majors profit off CMU's networking so I can't imagine Economics being that far off from Tepper.
  • bearcatsbearcats Posts: 4,320Registered User Senior Member
    speaking of yield i just turned down tepper, wharton and columbia for ross. I actually liked CMU more than mich at one point until i hear from my cousin, who graduated from CMU, well plus Ross > or = tepper anyway.. but to get back on topic of my cousin,
    Originally a computer science major, she found out that CS is not her thing and she switched to Economics, graduated with a 3.7 average. She went back to hong kong after she graduated, and she hasnt had a job for the past year... she said..her potential employers just havent heard of CMU...and had no idea how good it is. CMU is definitely lacking in international prestige, and it's not a thing that can be fixed in a short period of time. No matter how it's rising nationally, international prestige depends on the wide alumni base around the world, which CMU, as a small school lacks.and since i m planning to go back and work after i graduate, i had to choose amont mich, columbia and penn, CMU was out of my question.. ivies open doors back home, Cal and mich are like THE SCHOOLS after the ivies, and CMU is totally unheard of..that's pretty much true in most parts of asia
  • aquamarineeaquamarinee Posts: 3,028Registered User Senior Member
    I imagine that you'd do pretty well if you stayed in the US though. The thing about Economics is that it's under the H&SS school, which I hear is much less prestigious than Tepper. Would that detract from job recruitment in econ?
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