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Old 05-12-2009, 01:45 PM   #1
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Bait and switch dorm rooms

Is anyone concerned that they waited until after everyone submitted their intent to register before they decided to use the brand new dorm for singles for juniors and seniors while crowding the freshmen into triple sardine cans?

They have more dorms than they ever had before. The freshmen were originally slated to get all doubles. Now our class is being stiffed. The dorm rooms are so small that there is no room with a third bed.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:09 PM   #2
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Are you speaking from specific knowledge about the double rooms in the Residence Center becoming singles? Why would they do that?

It looks like the new dorm has 4 types of room arrangements, so you'd have to know quite specific information about what is happening in each room type in order to know that they're performing a switcheroo. I'm sure they're having to use some of the larger doubles in the existing dorms to accomodate more frosh than they've previously enrolled.

It's probable that no one will get a straight story from anyone in official capacity.
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:12 PM   #3
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Sandy,

My son, a sophomore is going to be in a 2 room suite in the new residence hall. With three other roommates. It is also very pricey, and believe me, if he could have gotten a room in his first or second choice, we would be spending less on housing next year. But it was full.

Sorry if you feel you were stiffed, but I believe you have inaccurate information. Have you looked at the floor plans on the website for each of the housing types in each hall?
You will find the description for each of the rooms with the floor plans.


For the new residence hall:

Chapman University - Res Life - Housing Options - Residences - Residence Center

There are four options for the residence center. 300 beds total in that building.

- There are double occupancy rooms, which would hold two students.

- There are single occupany suites, which will hold two students.

- There are two bedroom suites, which will hold four students.

- There are four bedroom suites, which will hold four students.

This is what it says at the website:
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The new Residence Center is slated to open for the 2009-2010 academic year. In addition to an additional 300 bed spaces for student housing, Residence Center will include a new dining commons and conference center.

Housing in Residence Center will be exclusively for continuing students (i.e. sophomores, juniors and seniors). Room configurations will include both traditional residence hall rooms as well as residence hall suites. The residence hall suites are two and four bedroom suites intended for four occupants that will include a common sink and countertop area and a space for a refrigerator.

Look for more information in the coming months regarding this exciting addition to the Chapman University residential community.
If you want to look at all the housing options for undergrads, go check out this link:

Chapman University - Res Life - Housing Options - Residence Halls
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:49 PM   #4
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My son is also a freshman this year....and was tripled....if you end up being tripled you should keep 2 of the beds bunked, then there is plenty of room.....kids (girls mainly) who want all 3 beds on the floor do lack a bit of floor space....in a triple, one dresser usually has to go in the closet, one in the room along a wall and one under the single lofted bed.....the 3 desks were put in a grouping together....3 big guys made it work just fine....you just can't bring everything you own from home because you will be sharing about 12 feet of hanging space in the closet....

Ever since they started building the new residence hall, it has been stated that the new dorm would be for upperclassman and not freshman....I don't know how the housing process worked for upperclassmen getting/not getting their 1st or 2nd choice for next year because my son decided to move off campus into a rented house with a few other kids....
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:26 PM   #5
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Contrary to what freshmen were told, they aren't being given a choice at all. I was also told by the tour guide that freshmen would receive doubles.

A solution would be for everyone stuck in a triple to set up a tent city on campus until the dorms assignments are made fair.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:31 PM   #6
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So would it have been better for less freshmen to be accepted to Chapman, this year? Would you be willing to give up your spot in the Freshman class so that you don't have to be tripled?

Good luck with the Tent City idea. I hope that works out for you. If you don't like it, go live off campus. Nobody is making you live in the dorms. Go find housing off campus with people you meet on facebook.

Do you really think that there are all kinds of students that have chosen singles? Did you see how much more expensive singles are? Almost double the price of a double. I don't know many parents willing to pay up so their kids have privacy - unless there is a medical issue.
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:10 PM   #7
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Wouldn't mind a triple here. More roomies, more fun!

Maybe.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:30 PM   #8
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Two years ago my D roomed as triples in a double at Oxy which was quite a bit smaller than the Moran hall room we were shown on our tour of Chapman. All I can say was that all three girls were so happy to be at Oxy that they didn't complain too much, finding their happiness sophomore year.

One would hope that the students at Chapman are as flexible and resilient.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:17 PM   #9
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i think transfers have to be tripled too D: but i dun currrrrr ill be happy just to be there
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:34 PM   #10
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I think the big issue is whether any juniors and seniors are getting singles. There is a fundamental fairness issue here.

It defies reason that they would have more rooms and less space. Admissions didn't say anything about the number of students increasing. Are they telling us that class sizes are going to be doubled? IF triples are necessary with a new dorm building, then the average class size will double. The UC classes are looking up.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:20 PM   #11
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Chapman tour guides are known for lying. If they didn't, people wouldn't come here. Yes, there is a new resident hall...but it's only because they knocked down the hall that was there before. Therefore, not too many more rooms are being added. The residence center was never going to be for freshmen. They have already designated specific residence halls for freshmen. They are even thinking about grouping you guys based on your FFC class.

Triples can be a struggle. There is very limited space and there is almost always an odd man out.

Yes, singles are available for non-first year students. Even though they are obviously more expensive than doubles or triples, a lot of people at Chapman can more than afford them.

I know a lot of freshman want to live in dormitories to meet people. But the truth is that Chapman is a commuter and weekend commuter school, meaning that on the weekends there are almost zero events and the dorms/campus is deserted. A lot of people who live in the dorms actually live 10 min to 1 hour away so they go home pretty much every weekend. The people who do not live as close to home tend to go to other universities to have fun, but you would need a car to do that.

Most people, after freshmen year, either get houses or rent apartments off-campus that are either the distance of a long bike ride or short car ride.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:35 PM   #12
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What is the general cost of off campus housing, versus dorms/apts. on campus?
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:55 PM   #13
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I don't know too much about off campus options. Most people rent a house or rent apartments. There are a few great apartments close by such as the Aspen apartments. I believe those are $2000 a month for a 2 bedroom apartment (and 2 parking spaces, but you can also rent more spaces). So if you have 4 roommates that would be $500 a month, which is much cheaper than Chapman's price. Plus, you wouldn't have to keep a meal plan. I think Chapman has a price listing of residence halls and rooms on their website. I believe most are around $11,000 a year.
Also for off-campus, people are always looking for roommates. There are often postings on the bulletin boards on campus. I usually see some that are around $600 a month.
You should be able to find something decent that is within your budget.

Also note that Chapman apartments are only for juniors, seniors, or if you're over 21. Chapman apartments are okay, and they are cheaper than the dorms. The apartments are even cheaper if you cancel your meal plan and start cooking yourself.
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:29 AM   #14
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Just curious, is there air conditioning in the dorms and residence halls? It gets uber hot in the OC sometimes
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:02 AM   #15
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yes, there is either an individual ac/heat in each room, or central air. Central air will automatically switch from ac to heat in the fall and then switches back to ac in the spring. A lot of people use the heat during winter time cause it can get pretty cold by Cali standards. It got down to below 50 degrees.
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