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Old 10-17-2012, 09:04 AM   #2011
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PSAT for us too

This is dds 3rd time taking it (freshman and sophmore years) but the school system is paying for all juniors to take it so we might as well do it again. She has difficulty finishing but got okay scores last time. We are planning to do SAT and ACT this spring.

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Old 10-17-2012, 10:10 AM   #2012
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Psat

S14 is taking his PSAT today. He's away at school so I sent a text message. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Thanksgiving break.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:21 PM   #2013
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Son is taking the PSAT this morning. I cheered him on this morning, but I dont have high hopes. I do think it will be good practice for him. He is taking the SAT for the first time in December.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:25 PM   #2014
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What is a DBQ....S1 in APUSH....I have no idea what this refers to ???
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:28 PM   #2015
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Without Googling it, I think a DBQ is a document based question. I have heard my high schoolers talk about DBQs and FRQs. These seem to be the essay question parts of the test.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:43 PM   #2016
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Yes - it's a Document Based Question. That's about all I know - an essay to be written in their long period (80 minutes). It's all new to me also (and to her!). DS11/15 only took AP Calc so we didn't have to deal with any essays for him!
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:19 PM   #2017
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thanks for the lingo update.....

Had a funny conversation between S1 and spouse after spouse overhear discussion regarding Honors Math homework......"Doesn't Sine just mean when you put your name down, Cosine just when you and your honey both sign together,Tan is goin to the beach, and CoTan is when you go together on spring break" .....lol by the whole family.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:47 PM   #2018
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So sorry to hear about your sick kid, sydsim. It just makes junior year that more stressful with illnesses hanging over head. D14 wen to school and is probably finishing up the PSAT as we speak. Fortunately they get out early so I'll pick her up and she crawl back under the covers if necessary. Got the evil eye from her this morning but I was reminded that her PSAT prep instructor reminded them "Not to be happy" when taking the test--staying in attack mode--so she certainly has that part down pat! Good luck to all! Just think, they will never have to take THIS test again!
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:18 PM   #2019
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Lol. A DBQ is a Data Based Question. It's one of the three types of AP essays- students read primary source documents and utilize them to write an essay on a given topic. They're not as bad as comparative essays.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:27 PM   #2020
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pdx and syd - Sorry to hear about the sick kiddos. The timing always seems to be horrible. D took her PSAT today and she said the math was easy but the reading questions were a killer. She said she left 7 questions unanswered in one section!

So much for the prep classes at school and the self study at home. I guess we will wait for the test scores and go from there.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:16 AM   #2021
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I heard mixed messages at school yesterday regarding the PSAT. Kids walking through the hall after the test were saying (to each other), "That test was brutal! The first 6 vocab questions - I didn't know any of those words. I was like, what the ____?"

But when I got home and asked my youngest he and his friends all thought the test was easy - easier than the test prep I was finally able to get him to do the last week (using Barrons - my favorite prep book as it does tend to make the real tests feel easier).

I still have no illusions about him getting NMSF. I'll be thrilled if he breaks 60 on each section.

Next test for us is the ACT on the 27th. Time to switch prep books (from SAT to ACT). We're still expecting to do a "final" test (either SAT or ACT) in the spring. Which one will depend upon which one he does better on (or likes better).
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:46 AM   #2022
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Great to have the PSAT in the rear view mirror! I have no idea when the results come in. I think it depends on the high school. Some wait until after Christmas break.
DS seemed pretty upbeat and happy that it is behind him.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:14 AM   #2023
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PSAT results come in around thanksgiving. I have seen some schools release them in November and others wait until January.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:07 AM   #2024
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Wow, I don't know of any school that releases in November. I believe our school gets them in December but holds them hostage until January. With my 2014 grad I was able to log onto collegeboard and get his score in December. I'm not sure how I did that. My memory is foggy. I'm sure I had a code of some sort. I logged on to get my 2009 grads December SAT scores and saw something about PSAT scores being available. I never would have thought to look otherwise. Much to S2's chagrin I actually laughed when I looked at his scores. He gives me grief to this day. His math and written put him well into NMF range...his CR was pitiful and absolutely not representative of what he was capable of. In looking at the questions he missed it was evident that my math/science brained son did not understand the language they were using to ask the questions. I assured him this was a good thing, something we could easily work with, and easily study for. The PSAT did him a great favor in pointing this out. With decent study effort on his part, specifically on CR he scored over 700 on his SAT CR. The schools he was interested in didn't reward NMF so it wasn't really an issue.

I say this to point out, if your students score is lower then they'd like, especially if a section seems like an anomaly, help them understand this is not a bad thing. It is pointing out areas they need to focus on. Carefully looking at the questions missed can really pinpoint where the issue lies. Are they missing actual concepts, did they not finish, are they confused as to what is being asked, what's the real issue here and how best to address it? Once you determine that it can be very empowering for a student as they feel they have a plan and a direction. Instead of seeing a low score on math they can break it down to "I did well on concepts W, X, Y, but I need to study concepts L, M, & N". This is specific and less overwhelming then "I need to bring up my math by a bajillion points".
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:14 PM   #2025
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Blueiguana.......well put....are you available for hire? !!!
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