General 2010 question

longrun12 · 03-12-2007, 06:32 PM

How many cadets started Swap summer?
How many cadets made it out of swap summer?

Bossf51 · 03-12-2007, 09:57 PM

274 entered...257 made it through swab summer.

longrun12 · 03-14-2007, 08:07 AM

Thanks: somewhere around a 10% drop.
Do you happen to know how many cadets started swap summer for the class of 2007 and how many will be graduating?
I am trying to get a feel for the drop out rate

rjrzoom57 · 03-14-2007, 09:20 AM

You can check Princeton Review for the ratios, off the top of my head I seem to recall a number around 200 making it through; so about 70%. For whatever reason the CGA has the lowest matriculation rate among the service academies and yet has about the best service retention rates there after... go figure...with all the swapping that goes on during swab summer it's a wonder any of them make it through.....funny how they left that stuff out of the movie

Bossf51 · 03-14-2007, 09:28 AM

The movie had nothing to do with the Academy.

There is about a 30% attrition rate. Yes it is highest of the academies. A theory is that at the CGA you can't "hide" like you can at the other academies.

Remember though it's not about everybody else it's about you. If you have the determination to make it you will.

As noted the graduates tend to stay in the service longer than the other academies. The re-up rate is in the range of 80-85%.

Also don't believe everything you read in the "Princeton Review"

rjrzoom57 · 03-14-2007, 10:21 AM

^^^^^ "The movie had nothing to do with the Academy" ..... ya think? ....and I thought they had moved the CGA to Alaska

I also think you would have a hard time convincing a Mid at Annapolis that he or she can "hide" their way through 4 years....I think it has more to do with the fact that people attend the CGA thinking it's not like a "real" academy since their mission is humanitarian only to discover it may be the toughest of the bunch.

longrun12 · 03-15-2007, 08:08 AM

OK I was just looking for data: The AO I deal with does not provide me with quality answers. I sometimes think I do not have the clearance to receive answers. My goal is if my son get an appointment to provide him with some data so he understands the whole picture.
rjrzoom57:
Could you explain the comment
"with all the swapping that goes on during swab summer it's a wonder any of them make it through..."

rjrzoom57 · 03-15-2007, 09:46 AM

Longrun, as a parent of a CGA applicant I can tell you from personal experience that most AOs will ignore you, short of being present at the academy to stand in front of them to ask the question directly. It's different than in the case of a college application where the college understands the parents may play a significant role in the decision making process since they may be footing some or all of the bill. The CGA expects the candidate /applicant to be the one responsible for navigating through this process and ask the questions they feel are relevant. If you want the same thing for your son as I do, the opportunity to achieve his goals...on his own, I would suggest you do this together and let him be the conduit for questions that you both feel are important to understanding the process and requirements. Even then have patience, I think the AOs have more territory and people than they can really serve so it may take time to get a response. For really important stuff I would call directly, other questions I would just route via email. I will send you a PM about some of the people we have had success in contacting.

As far as my attempt at humor....I guess I should just keep my day job..

Take care and good luck to you and your son.