Help me out, please!!

dharmesh_bhatt · 01-06-2009, 10:48 PM

Hi everyone,

Im an international and Id like to know my chances, so if some one could please help me out.

Stats:
CR: 730
Math: 760
SAT II
Math Level II: 780
Chemistry: 790
Physics: 780
ECs: I taught computers at a tech firm for 2 months.

And Im in the top 5% of my class. But the thing is Im applying for need based aid.

I dont know if Colgate is need blind. So could you please let me know what are my chances of getting an admission along with aid, because I cant attend the college without it.

Thanks.

brassring · 01-07-2009, 12:56 AM

Not need blind. Rather, need aware.

dharmesh_bhatt · 01-07-2009, 04:51 AM

alright, what do you think of my chances?

dharmesh_bhatt · 01-07-2009, 09:51 AM

cmon ppl, post some replies.....

ticklemepink · 01-07-2009, 10:22 PM

Do you do anything else besides that gig?

dharmesh_bhatt · 01-07-2009, 10:50 PM

If you mean extra curricular activities, I served in a local trust hospital, but I wasn't able to include the certificate along with my applications. Otherwise, I was involved in sports, but that was before the 9th grade. So all in all, my extra curricular activities are limited. Does that adversely affect my chances?

JJJJ1234 · 01-08-2009, 12:10 AM

Unless the admissions standards are radically higher for internationals, you seem like a good candidate for Colgate on paper.

9LIVES · 01-08-2009, 07:22 AM

I think Colgate is need blind, but I think only for US citizens.
I know quite a few schools that ask internationals to provide a proof of finances form showing that they can pay the tuition.
I'm not sure if this applies to Colgate but either check their website or call the admissions office.
Good Luck!!

bluebayou · 01-08-2009, 12:19 PM

dharmesh:

Colgate is not need blind for any applicant. No one can really 'chance you' unless they currently work in admissions bcos they have no way of knowing how admissions for internationals work, particularly for internationals that require finaid. That would be true even at need blind schools. For example, two years ago I recommended a neighbor (who was an international, but attened school in California for many years) apply to Princeton ED. The girl had phenomenal stats, and the top of our competitive HS. She was waitlisted ED. But she was accepted into Harvard & Yale (and Princeton) in the regular round. Obviously, nothing changed on her record between Dec and March. The only thing I can think of was that P'ton waited to compare her to the international pool and thus, the ED deferral. Given her extremely strong stats and RD acceptances to H & Y, I can only assume that she would have been an ED admit to P'ton if she was a US citizen. btw: she was full pay.

Good luck.

gellino · 01-08-2009, 12:45 PM

Your scores are around the top 30% of accepted students and would guess that being top 5% of your class would be in the top 50% of accepted students. After that, no one else can really answer anything definitive on your candidacy, other than I would think your credentials are unlikely to help much in receiving financial aid; especially as an international student.

BB012 · 01-08-2009, 01:03 PM

I think the Princeton deferral more likely happened due to geographic distribution factors etc. rather than aid, since Princeton emphatically says it is need-blind for all. When I asked about applying ED to a college officer of a college I was interested in, he said, "I would encourage you to apply for Early Decision. If you get deferred into the regular applicant pool, I would urge you to not be discouraged and to recognize that we are still interested in your candidacy; we often defer international students so that we can assess our geographic distribution and other factors in the application pool, many of which are beyond your control."

Colgate is need-aware. But I have a friend (from my country) who studies at Colgate with almost a full-ride. He had similar sat scores and extra-curricular as dharmesh_bhatt, but he was first ranked student of our class, and had excellent marks in A' level subjects.

bluebayou · 01-08-2009, 07:52 PM

BB: I totally agree. I did not mean to infer tha P'ton deferred my neighbor due to finaid, or the lack thereof. My guess was that they deferred her to compare her against the RD international pool, for whatever reason; and, yes, it could have just been geography. But, with RD acceptances to Harvard and Yale (and P), she was an extremely strong candidate (obviously). But, it the end it was P'ton's loss on yield, since she matriculated to H.

And my reply to the OP was that NONE of us can really provide his/her 'chances' since we have no way of knowing how the international pool looks. Since he repeatedly asked for replies....