iamnotabronte

I will be applying to Cornell in the fall (ILR, woo!) but all the other schools I am applying to are LACs. Is Colgate the LAC that is matched with Cornell? I am interested in applying here.

What do you think my chances are?


Female from Rural Kentucky
GPA: 4.25w, 3.95uw
7 APs by graduation: 3 this year with all 5's. School has block scheduling which has made it hard to take copious amounts of APs, plus we are not allowed to take any APs independent study.
Rank: 2/350
ACT: 30 (will retake in October, hoping for a 33)
SAT IIs: Lit: 730, Math IIC: (will take in October,*700), Biology: (will take in October, *760)

ECs:
Mock Trial (9,10,11,12): Capt., Best Witness in State, Best Witness in Tournament, State Runner-Up (2 years), Regional Champs (2 years)
School Newspaper Editor-in-Chief
Teen Columnist for local paper
County Young Democrats (10,11,12): Founding Member, Secretary, Vice-President
School Young Democrats (12): Founder, President
NHS (10,11,12): President
National Latin Honor Society
Y-Club (11, 12): Founding Member, Vice-President, School Service Chair, Organized many service projects
250+ service hours with various organizations
Various summer enrichment programs
other various award and ECs.

iamnotabronte

bumpity-bump-bump
please

Oedipus

Yes Colgate is the LAC of version of Cornell but I don't think you'll get in. In recent years, this country has taken a hard turn to starboard, politically. Most LAC's are looking for upstanding Christians that will support their country in a time when she most desperately needs it. If you had an abortion, even a little one, then they will find out.

iamnotabronte

so you think my political preference will keep me out of Colgate?

iamnotabronte

bump please, and someone respond --- i am a little surprised by this.

jrpar

I think your chances are excellent (just ignore the post above). It's not at all uncommon for someone to have both Colgate and Cornell on their list of schools.

Colgate13

Being part of your school's democRATS club is not going to get you rejected although one could make the case that believing that it could should get you rejected.

This Colgate/Cornell thing that many people imply is something that bothers me. Cornell is not that similar to Colgate other than they are in the same part of the country and both have good hockey teams. Cornell is in a small city. Colgate is in a rural town. Cornell is a alot larger and offers professional programs while Colgate mainly sticks to the more traditional liberal arts fields. People say that both have beautiful campus, but I disagree. The beauty of Cornell's campus is very overrated. I've seen many flagship public school that are just as attractive if not more. Not saying that you should not applied to both, but don't look at them as some sort of package. Just because you like one does not mean that you won't hate the other.

collegeparent

Know of students who loved Colgate & hated Cornell -- and vice versa. It'll depend on what you want and where you'll feel most comfortable. Academically, athletically and socially, the schools are on a par, thus could be the reason for the comparison. In fact, as Colgate13 said, they are two entirely different schools in both size, feel and location. Good luck with your applications and with your eventual decisions.

mhc48

Ignore Oedipus: "Quo usque tandem abutere patientia nostra?"

You have strong credentials and location in addition to recommend you. But I'd agree with others that the proximity of the two schools does not make Colgate the LAC cognate of Cornell. Cornell is a University, larger with more constituent schools and different atmosphere. Colgate is a LAC with all that that usually entails as to class size, professors teaching rather than TAs and is located in a small village that some will find picturesque and idyllic and others confining. Colgate adds to the usual LAC ethos an emphasis on athletics in the (traditional, not frat) Greek ideal (well, maybe frat too) which is uncommon in many LACs.

You'll have to evaluate both schools independently based upon what you're looking for or want. The good thing is, it'll be one trip.

Oldhat

Two D's looked at both schools and both agreed they preferred Colgate. Also, spoke to a relative who is a professor at Cornell and he urged our daughters to attend Colgate if possible. Feels they far exceed Cornell in terms of attention given to undergrads. Cornell profs consumed with their research and feels students take a back seat. Just his opinion.....but after visits to each a couple of times, I tend to agree. However, both are great schools and it just depends on the size and flavor that your student wants.

An0nym0u5

hahaha you obviously didnt catch on to oedipus's sarcasm.

mhc48

I often miss nuance when it's applied with a trowel. My apologies to Oedipus, I guess that's the kind of witty remark that marks a real Jocasta.....er.......Jokester at Williams.

Oedipus

I'm glad some finally got it.