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05-14-2011, 07:20 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Asian Admission Results thread??
What do you think?
Should we make one? I am really curious to find out how Asians (especially Asian males) fare in top college admissions.
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05-14-2011, 10:02 PM
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Is it a bad idea?
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05-14-2011, 10:34 PM
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May I ask you this question? From a purely utility aspect, what do you hope to learn from respondents? What will the aggregate info tell you? A collection of a dozen anecdotes, from those willing to take time to reply will tell you..... what?
Here's what I can tell you: most denizens of college confidential are pretty serious about college choices and likely to be above average students, Asian or not. Therefore, they'll likely have offers from good if not great schools. And? So what about this is news?
Plus, most HS seniors (with college admissions in hand) aren't trawling this site nowadays. It's a quiet time.
But since I've given you this advice, I'll give you data too:
Me: Chinese American, immigrant blue collar parents. Accepted at all schools applied (2 ivies and 4 top engineering programs). Matriculated and graduated from one of the Ivies. My SAT was about the 30th percentile for my alma mater, rank about 10th or 12th. Rigorous schedule, avg ECs but leadership roles in predominantly black inner city HS.
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05-14-2011, 10:53 PM
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1. African Americans and Hispanics have their own threads. What is wrong with having Asian results thread?
2. The thread might help future Asian applicants to top colleges.
3. People need to see the uphill battle that Asians are facing in college admissions.
BTW, WHEN did you apply those colleges? Last year? 2 years ago?
Last edited by 20more; 05-14-2011 at 11:07 PM.
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05-14-2011, 11:09 PM
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I think this would be a great idea. Asians have a huge disadvantage and it'd just be nice to see how fellow students are faring in their admissions. It'd also give us an opportunity to ask one another about specific details in admissions.
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05-14-2011, 11:27 PM
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i don't believe asians have a "huge" disadvantage. perhaps they are disadvantaged... but not huge.
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05-14-2011, 11:29 PM
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I support this. This will help future Asian (male) applicants shoot for more feasible schools, spend less app fee, and most importantly, suffer less heartache.
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05-14-2011, 11:33 PM
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Why especially male Asian applicants? Female Asian applicants are just as, if not more, disadvantaged in the admissions process, unless they're applying to engineering schools.
Last edited by smile99; 05-14-2011 at 11:40 PM.
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05-14-2011, 11:35 PM
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Actually, previous analyses of CC results threads have been consistent with the idea that Asians and whites are treated approximately equally in college admissions, with deviations from that indicating that whites are advantaged over Asians occurring as often as deviations from that indicating that Asians are advantaged over whites.
If an Asians-specific results thread were to discourage an Asian from applying when the general results thread did not do so, it would not be to the thread's credit.
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05-14-2011, 11:39 PM
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smile99
It does not have to be Asian male only thread.
"Actually, previous analyses of CC results threads have been consistent with the idea that Asians and whites are treated approximately equally in college admissions"
I found this extremely hard to believe. Not in my HS.
Last edited by 20more; 05-14-2011 at 11:54 PM.
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05-15-2011, 12:12 AM
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you should totally petition for it.
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05-15-2011, 01:15 AM
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It would be convenient.
When I go through results threads, I usually check the ethnicity before reading the rest of the post - asian or not. Otherwise, the stats aren't contextually valid for me. Putting up a results thread for asians only will automatically filter those stats out.
And if I want a broader view of admissions, I can go back to results threads that contain all ethnicities.
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05-15-2011, 05:41 AM
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Jeez.. you guys are all talk and no action.
Let the massacre begin!
Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): CR 730 M 800 W 800 Composite 2330
ACT: N/A
SAT II: MathII 800, Physics 780
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.93, or 93.6/100
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Top 5%, exact rank unknown
AP (place score in parenthesis):
Macro-economics (4), Micro-economics(4), Psychology (4), Calculus AB (4), English Language (3) (I know... they're all bad) Taking: Physics C, Statistics, Chemistry, Calculus BC
IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
Senior Year Course Load: Economics, Independent Studies Math, English (AP Lit got cancelled due to low enrollment), History (no AP History offered at my school), AP Bio, AP Physics B, AP Chem, Peer Tuturing
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):
AIME x 2
CMO (Canadian Mathematical Olympiad) x1
Medals from table tennis tournament
Fermat Contest National Champion
Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
Varsity Table Tennis (Captain 9,10,11,12, won a lot of medals and awards)
Recreational Table Tennis Club(President 9,10,11,12)
School tutoring club (Co-founder and President, 12)
Math Club (President, 9,10,11,12)
JV Basketball (9,10)
Student Council (11,12)
Job/Work Experience:
Basketball Columnist/ Freelance Translator (11,12)
Math/Physics Tutor (9,10,11,12)
Volunteer/Community service:
Youth Camp counselor (10,11,12)
School Teaching Assistant (10,11,12)
Summer Activities:
SIMUW (Summer Institute of Mathematics at University of Washington) - 2009
AwesomeMath - 2010
Essays: Assuming good
Teacher Recommendation: Didn't see. Assuming decent
Counselor Rec: Didn't see it
Additional Rec: Not sending one
Interview: Haven't had it yet
Others:
School Type: Mediocre public
Race: Asian
Gender: Male
Hook: ABSOLUTELY NONE
Results:
Accepted to: Duke (Trinity, attending), Boston College (Honors), University of Waterloo (National scholarship), McGill University
Waitlisted at: Northwestern, Amherst, WashU
Rejected by: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Dartmouth, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Penn Wharton (ED)
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05-15-2011, 08:55 AM
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mathematicism
Good luck to you at Duke!
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05-15-2011, 09:01 AM
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Year: Class of 2015
SAT: 2380 800-780-800 (12 Essay)
ACT: 35
SAT II: 800-800-780
UWGPA: 3.96
Rank: School does not rank
AP or IB: School does not offer but all 5s except one 4
Course Rigor: Most rigorous course load
High School: Extremely competitive
Awards and Honors: NMS, AIME (Did not make USAMO), AP Scholar, Community service award, Many regional science/math related awards
Major Award: No National Level Award
Financial Aid: Yes – Middle Class
State or Region: Midwest
Race and Gender: Asian Male
Hook: None
Intended Major: Undecided but Social Science Related Major
ECs: Couple of very unique ECs and no typical Asian ECs other than Math Club
I am not going to be specific but they were pretty good according to my GC
National Universities:
Rejected/Waitlisted: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Dartmouth, Columbia and Duke
Accepted: Chicago (Attending), Rice, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown
LACs:
Accepted: Middlebury and Carleton
Rejected/Waitlisted: Swarthmore
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