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national academy of future physicians and medical scientists award of excellence

Baseballguy149Baseballguy149 Posts: 8Registered User New Member
edited July 2013 in College Admissions
Is this common ?
or Did a lot of people get this award ?
Post edited by Baseballguy149 on

Replies to: national academy of future physicians and medical scientists award of excellence

  • entomomentomom Posts: 23,656Registered User Senior Member
    I just went to their website, I'm assuming the 'award of excellence' you got has to do with this (I'm not giving a link as it's a commercial site, so just google your title to get to the website):
    America’s Highest Achieving High School Students To Be Honored At 2014 Congress Of Future Medical Leaders in Washington, D.C.

    Which has this standard:
    All students must have a minimum 3.5 GPA (or equivalent) to be nominated.

    And costs this:
    Tuition Only
    1-Payment:
    One payment of $985

    Tuition Only
    Payment Plan:
    Charge $1132 as follows: $283 deposit today, then 3 monthly payments of $283

    Tuition & Concierge Package 1-Payment:
    One Payment of $1585

    Tuition & Concierge Payment Plan:
    Charge $1820 as follows: $455 deposit today, then 3 monthly payments of $455
  • prophesticprophestic Posts: 3Registered User New Member
    My son received a mailing from the National Academy of Future Physicians. It is in trash can. I do not appreciate having to explain to my hard-working teen that a for-profit entity wants to recognize him -- at a cost of about $1000-$2000.
  • senators2015senators2015 Posts: 9Registered User New Member
    I don't think a lot of these criticisms are very fair. I received the National Academy of Future Physicians' invitation, and I did a bit of investigating. I confirmed with a few people that it was not a scam and that they are offering quite a line up and other networking opportunities after the Congress is over.

    I know the price tag of $1000 seems like a lot, but there are ways to fundraise for it. I found 5 people on Go Fund Me(fundraising website) who are in the same situation as I am. I also called the Academy and found out that they have this thing called Talent Scout that helps students fundraise and cut the cost of attendance. I'm excited to meet Jack Andraka and all the other cool scientists and medical school deans that will be there.
  • entomomentomom Posts: 23,656Registered User Senior Member
    I don't think a lot of these criticisms are very fair.

    What is unfair about citing directly from the website? What is unfair about quoting the facts? What is unfair about having a different opinion than yours?
    I confirmed with a few people that it was not a scam

    Please show me where ANYONE here said that it was a scam.
    I know the price tag of $1000 seems like a lot, but there are ways to fundraise for it.

    I rest my case. If a hefty price tag and the opportunity to 'fundraise' doesn't spell boondoggle, I don't know what does, this is a tried and true commercial strategy. Sure do it if you like, that is a choice each individual makes, but that doesn't mean thinking things like this are overblown promises meant to suck in naive consumers isn't 'fair'.

    Funny how members defending programs like this or NSHSS are usually first time members.
  • senators2015senators2015 Posts: 9Registered User New Member
    There's nothing wrong with citing the facts. We can definitely agree to disagree. I just think I'm going to get a lot out of this conference since I will be in the room with some of our generation's best and brightest scientists and doctors. I see this as a great opportunity to network with intelligent future doctors and scientists.

    The fact that other students like myself are setting up fundraising accounts shows me that this is going to be something very special and worthwhile.
  • MommaJMommaJ Posts: 4,631Registered User Senior Member
    The fact that other students are setting up fundraising accounts shows only that they can't afford to go on their own dime. And who would be crazy enough to give money to some kid who wants to go to a pricey conference? My extra dough goes to actual good causes.

    It does indeed become tiresome to see representatives of these organizations popping onto CC to do marketing. You'd think they'd have the good sense to establish a presence over the long-term so there'd be some credibility to their breathless posts...
  • entomomentomom Posts: 23,656Registered User Senior Member
    You'd think they'd have the good sense to establish a presence over the long-term so there'd be some credibility to their breathless posts...

    CC actually did this with one not-to-be-named 'academic recognition' organization, but they continued to use sock puppets to try and promote and justify their program.
  • SikorskySikorsky Posts: 5,851Registered User Senior Member
    The fact that other students like myself are setting up fundraising accounts shows me that this is going to be something very special and worthwhile.

    The fact that other students are setting up fundraising accounts shows me that other students are setting up fundraising accounts. And nothing more.

    It doesn't show me "that this is going to be something special and worthwhile." You can spend a lot of money on something that turns out to be a huge waste; just ask almost anybody who owns a time-share condo in Florida.

    It doesn't show me that you "will be in the room with some of our generation's best and brightest scientists and doctors." I'm not sure whether you mean leading scientists and physicians working right now, or leading high-school students who will be scientists and physicians in the next decades, but in either case, I'm dubious. I suspect the real leaders in medical science and medicine will be working at their research, and I suspect that the leading science students will be pursuing their own interests, rather than dropping a grand or two on this honor.

    And, yeah, isn't it interesting how these for-profit enterprises that will bestow an honor that you have to pay for always generate the same kind of discussion? They always seem to have a defender on College Confidential who has single-digit postage, and whose posts always relate only to the value of the purported honor.
  • T26E4T26E4 Posts: 16,579Registered User Senior Member
    You get to be in the room with other HS students who are willing to drop $1000-2000 who feel it will be an honor to be in the same room as you. Wow.
  • entomomentomom Posts: 23,656Registered User Senior Member
    only 2,000 honorees/scholars from the entire U.S. were invited to attend.
    The organization is new and only invited 3,000 of the top students in the U.S.

    ??
    No, none of the letters sent are fraudulent letters and many people have questioned the legitimacy of these letters, but they are very much so legitimate.

    No one here has said that, it sounds like you're posting from a script.
    Do not listen to the other people on Yahoo who are misinformed and are just missing out on an once-in-a-lifetime event.
    The NY Times has not published an article about the National Academy of Future Physicians.....As you can see, anyone who brings up that NY Times article is highly misinformed.

    Again, customizing your response to the current discussion would help with credibility.
    By attending this Congress and being a member of the National Academy of Future Physicians your chances of getting into the college of your choice will be increased.

    That's a very strong assertion. Data please.
  • T26E4T26E4 Posts: 16,579Registered User Senior Member
    staris: Have you read some of the assertion of past shills for these "honors" organizations and their posts on CC? Your post does not veer from that in the slightest. Frankly your cut and paste assertions (from a question on a Yahoo page asking if this org is a scam) cement your shill status.



    For other readers, I just did a google on the founder of National Academy of Future Physicians. Richard Rossi, who also is the founder for ten for-profit youth leadership organizations, of which National Academy of Future Physicians seems to be one of the newer ones.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYLF

    BTW: The $56M of revenue for the for-profit company which oversees these NFP "Leadership orgs" in 2006 included $18M in compensation. So buyer beware
  • SikorskySikorsky Posts: 5,851Registered User Senior Member
    Anybody else think that staris1223 seems exceptionally knowledgeable--maybe even suspiciously knowledgeable--about an organization from which he or she "received a letter...yesterday"?

    Not to mention, uncommonly devoted to defending it?

    Well, maybe not all that knowledgeable:
    staris1223 wrote:
    The NAFP is not a for-profit organization.

    No, it isn't. Not even according to its own web site.

    http://www.futuredocs.com/about-us/for-profit-vs-non-profit/

    Caveat emptor, indeed.
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