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College Admissions: Getting Into College Is Now Easier, A Surprise For Most Students

Dave_BerryDave_Berry CC Admissions Expert Posts: 2,279 Senior Member
"There are always news and headlines about how the number of applications spike in prestigious colleges which trigger fear among many students. In reality, it is actually easier to get into these colleges than the previous years.

What many students do not realize is that getting into a good college today is a lot easier, and will become so in the coming years, according to the Hechinger Report. It is important to correct this mindset because it is one of the reasons why students do not bother to apply anymore or settle for lower quality schools, when they could have actually been accepted to much better institutions." ...

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/68657/20170311/college-admissions-getting-now-easier-what-students-think.htm
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Replies to: College Admissions: Getting Into College Is Now Easier, A Surprise For Most Students

  • PurpleTitanPurpleTitan Registered User Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    @MassDaD68: A middle-class kid with top stats can get big scholarships.
  • PurpleTitanPurpleTitan Registered User Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    @Seniors.yikes.us: Nope, most top schools don't offer merit scholarships, but plenty that are better than the "local CC or the city state school" do, and yet that is what @MassDaD68 seems to think that kids who are middle class can do no better than.
  • londondadlondondad Registered User Posts: 2,054 Senior Member
    It really depends on what you mean by "middle class". For many (but not all) middle-class parents that do not qualify for any financial need aid, if they are proactive in their use of 529 accounts, live somewhat frugally and have no extenuating circumstances, they can look for schools that offer merit money in the $15k to $30k per year, which can work very well on making a private or out-of-state public school affordable.
  • foobar1foobar1 Registered User Posts: 154 Junior Member
    This is not true for the most competitive schools. In 2015, the Ivies received over 250,000 applications while in 2005 the Ivies received 150,000 applications. That's an increase in applications in ten years of over 65%.
  • PostmodernPostmodern Registered User Posts: 919 Member
    @foobar1 , don't you think the main criteria for deciding overall how hard the game of musical chairs is the number of students vs. the number of slots?

    If that goes down, then it is easier overall to get a chair, regardless of any one institutions' individual changes. Right?
  • MassDaD68MassDaD68 Registered User Posts: 1,273 Senior Member
    @PurpleTitan I would put middle class around the $150K annual income range and YES tippy top kids will get good aid. But by definition, the tippy top is a very small number. That leaves all the other kids paying full price or close to it.

    The reality is that most kids do not have that many college choices out there. Higher education has done a terrible job trying to reach middle class kids that are not "tippy top". Everyone chases the tippy top kids.

    There are plenty of successful people who went to CC or the local city school. That is not a slam on them. It is just that they are the most reasonable cost to a student who is willing to live at home and commute. Those are the only ones who have attempted to offer an education to the middle class. Private school has all but abandoned this entire class of students.
  • PostmodernPostmodern Registered User Posts: 919 Member
    Private school has all but abandoned this entire class of students.

    @MassDaD68 , why do you think that is? And what can or should be done?
  • AroundHereAroundHere Registered User Posts: 2,188 Senior Member
    @MassDaD68 Your estimate of middle class is way over the median income in the US!

    What you are saying about affordabilty for families in 100K income range is true of elite private schools. It's really not hard for families to have an EFC of half their income, especially at CSS schools that add in your home equity. (We live in a hot real estate market.)

    However there are non-elite, less highly ranked LACs that give generous aid to non tippy-top kids. They often require compromises, such as less exciting location, lack of engineering school, etc, but for my kid that really wanted a smaller school than her in-state public options, we found one we can afford.

    It's costing more than in-state, but we can afford it.
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