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Here's what it really takes to get into the Ivy League these days

Dave_BerryDave_Berry CC Admissions Expert Posts: 2,167 Senior Member
"The eight Ivy League schools — Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton and Yale — had a total of 281,060 applicants for the class of 2021. Of those applicants, less than 10% got admissions offers. Harvard had the lowest acceptance rate out of all the Ivies, at just 5%.

Clearly, getting into any Ivy League school is an impressive achievement. So, how do people do it?" ...

In case you didn't know ...

http://college.usatoday.com/2017/04/26/heres-what-it-really-takes-to-get-into-the-ivy-league-these-days/
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Replies to: Here's what it really takes to get into the Ivy League these days

  • TiggerDadTiggerDad Registered User Posts: 544 Member
    Overall, a pretty good summary.
  • bobrockbobrock Registered User Posts: 13 New Member
    that explains the booming 'essay and life-stories crafting for US colleges business' in china and india ..
  • MandalorianMandalorian Registered User Posts: 1,340 Senior Member
    edited May 1
    Even more impressive for middle/upper-middle class non-Jewish white and asian people.
  • vbv8dadvbv8dad Registered User Posts: 78 Junior Member
    I feel this is 'One Size Fits All" admission process when STEM and Humanities students are totally distinct in their thinking and analysis.
  • JuicyMangoJuicyMango Registered User Posts: 1,183 Senior Member
    @Proteus77 I completely agree with you, I wish the system was like that. The current standardized exams (SAT, SAT subject tests, APs) are much too easy and not heavily weighted at all. But that's because US is unique in its "holistic" admissions process.

    And there's another reason US colleges are not going to implement harder exams anytime soon. Can you guess what ethnicity of people would be HEAVILY represented in top schools if that happened? And that's a no no in the US because diversity is one of the most important values. Essays and EC's give "other" people a chance.
  • MandalorianMandalorian Registered User Posts: 1,340 Senior Member
    @Proteus77- I do agree with you, but the truth of it is an average engineer who can write/communicate well is going to get hired over an excellent engineer who writes poorly. A huge part of STEM jobs are written communication.
  • beepybeetlebeepybeetle Registered User Posts: 414 Member
    There isn't a whole lot in the guide that actually gives any insight... It's just rehashing the obvious
  • Proteus77Proteus77 Registered User Posts: 20 New Member
    there are many ethnic, religious and cultural groups that value education highly and typically do well. As long as schools correct for, and aim for diversity in sociology-economic status, the system should remain fair, even with heavy emphasis on test scores and grades.
  • eyemgheyemgh Registered User Posts: 3,483 Senior Member
    @Mandalorian, there's a big distinction between creative writing and technical writing. One can be a VERY good technical writer without a creative writing bone in their body.
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