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12-30-2007, 09:06 PM
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#31 | | Member
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| Maybe I should change my name to Sitting Bull or something...or Simba |
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12-30-2007, 09:09 PM
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#32 | | Junior Member
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| Vicente, college admission isn't that simple. |
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12-30-2007, 09:16 PM
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#33 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mississauga, ON --> Charlottesville, VA (UVA Grad Student '13) Gender: Unknown
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| Well then make sure that you put down in one of your application essays how the Chinese race is so great and how you are so different from White people because of your choice of parents. And be sure to voucher your recommenders to comment on how your Chinese-ness has made you better than the other students who aren't as fortunate as you are to be Chinese.
Seriously, please explain how putting down that you are Chinese can possibly benefit you in the eyes of the admissions committee. |
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12-30-2007, 09:34 PM
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#34 | | Junior Member
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| I never mention benefit myself in admission and I never mention "my superior race" to anybody. Please reread my original post. No need to get mad at me for you misunderstanding.
All I said was putting down your race shows that you are not afraid to be categorized, but the important thing is your essay and application. |
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12-30-2007, 09:37 PM
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#35 | | Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MN Gender: Not Saying
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| Ease up guys. The OP said, "Self-report or not as you wish." This should be up to each applicant, with no guesswork about what each applicant meant by reporting or not reporting an ethnic category.
Good luck to all of this year's applicants. |
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12-30-2007, 09:40 PM
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#36 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OH Gender: Male
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| well, isn't the real point the fact that collleges don't have to report it if you leave it blank?
So is it true that colleges don't care how many asians they admit, only how many asians they have to report they admitted? so isn't it in the best interest for, going along with the same example, an asian to decline to answer, even if the last name is Chen or Kim? |
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12-30-2007, 09:45 PM
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#37 | | Junior Member
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| My bad.
Tokenadult, you moderate the College forum at the AoPS, right? |
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12-30-2007, 10:16 PM
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#38 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Gender: Male
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| To be honest, I doubt race is such a big deal as everyone makes it out to be. I'm sure it's one of many factors but isn't the almighty factor by any means at all.
Ease up folks. |
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12-30-2007, 10:28 PM
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#39 | | Senior Member
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| ^ doubt it. Race can make or break a borderline student. |
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12-31-2007, 12:34 AM
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#40 | | Member
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| Good point though JohnC613. It does seem it would be much more advantageous not to indicate it if you are not an URM. But, ethically speaking, its pretty f-ed up. I should shut up though because I haven't indicated mine on any of my apps. I suck. |
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12-31-2007, 01:48 AM
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#41 | | Junior Member
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| i don't understand race componenet in college admissions..
they say they accept people regardless of race + gender..
but why is it harder for guys to get into engineering school
and asians to get into top schools..
and don't colleges also say they want to "diversify" their college?
wouldn't those two statements be contradictory? |
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12-31-2007, 01:52 AM
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#42 | | Member
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| when you get to the core of it you realize they are completly contradictory... |
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12-31-2007, 02:04 AM
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#43 | | Junior Member
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| haha i knew it... im not saying all URM gets in..
its just that if URM and ORM are equally competitive and qualified.... obviously they would try to "diversify".. -_- |
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12-31-2007, 02:12 AM
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#44 | | Member
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| Yeah, the fact is that a minority...is a minority. Assuming every applicant was just as qualified, regardless of race, there would always be a disproportianate amound of ORMs compared to URMs by the definition of a minority. |
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12-31-2007, 02:21 AM
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#45 | | Member
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| Did the same thing as Shinggie too. |
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