hamburgler2

I think that 3365 needs someone to make excuses for him, an asian, when he doesn't get into UCLA.

Reddune

^I don't think any Asian can use that excuse considering the UC's no longer use AA as a factor.

Bay

The "Worst race to be for college....?" would be Black or Native American. They have the lowest admit rates per capita of any other races in America.

The best race to be for college?... would be Asian. They have the highest admit rate per capita of any other race in America.

tokenadult

MODERATOR'S NOTE TO "Worst race to be for college...." THREAD:

By consensus we try to combine threads about affirmative action issues into the FAQ thread on ethnic self-identification in college applications so that participants who love to discuss this issue can find all the discussion in one place.

tokenadult

Does anyone have figures for how many students are college-ready (academically prepared to thrive in college) by ethnicity? The only figures I can readily find about that issue appear in each year's ACT national report.

http://www.act.org/news/data/07/pdf/National2007.pdf

(Section III)

I suppose there are quite a few other studies of this issue, with surely differing methodologies and definitions, and possibly differing conclusions. Where could we find links to reports on this issue?

tokenadult

From the definitions used in the federal Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System (IPEDS) reports made by colleges:

The Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System (IPEDS) - Glossary

fabrizio

Let's assume that it is a fact that Asians have the "highest admit rate per capita" of any race in America.

You conclude that because Asians have the highest admit rate per capita, it is good to be Asian.

What's wrong with this analysis? It ignores the traits that are commonly associated with Asian applicants: high test scores and GPAs. Those are the very things that coupled with a complete application and a decent essay virtually guarantee admission to non-selective universities. When packaged with extracurriculars, strong recommendations, an excellent essay, and other subjective factors, they increase the chances of admission to selective universities.

So, is it good to be Asian, or is it good to have high test scores and GPAs? Only someone eager to mislead others would claim that being Asian in and of itself results in a good chance of admission.

lilkrnq

Hey everyone. I have a question regarding affirmative action as if it is still used by colleges today and if so which colleges still use them? If anyone has any input as to what schools ask about race on the application and which ones don't that would be great.

PS. This is for a report so the information would be greatly appreciated.

Bourne

Lol. This will only serve to begin a massive argument about it's merits and it's flaws.

Use accredited sources -- Visit your local library. There's plenty of data available on the topic. It takes a bit of research to find it.

Whether you want us to do your homework for you or you're looking for perspective on a topic that's controversial at best and dividing at worst -- Anyways, in terms of your paper -- any useful information given here can easily be found by a bit of research.

Our opinions are not citable sources.

lilkrnq

I'm not asking anyone to do my work for me. I've done the research, read up on the legal aspects of it, but can't seem to find information about which schools actually still implement aspects of it.

I don't want to cause chaos about whether you agree or disagree with it. Everybody has their own opinion on the matter.

I just wanted to find out if anyone knew what schools still use it that's all.

sybbie719

Indicating your race on any college application is Entirely Optional!!

as this thread indicates

The Fastest-Growing Ethnic Category at Great Colleges: "Race Unknown"

Fastest-Growing Ethnic Category at Great Colleges: "Race Unknown"

vossron

You'll still have to do some tedious research. Many schools publish their Common Data Set; just Google "common data set" "a school name". Section C7 includes "Racial/ethnic status" and a check in either Very Important, Important, Considered or Not Considered. This is probably as close as you'll come to answering your question accurately. Have fun!

innervisions

If you leave your gender as "unknown," colleges will just look at your name and either conclude that you are Asian, or, if your name is not clearly Asian, you will be considered an affluent white. It's not as if a "John Michael Parker" can mark "race unknown" and fool the admissions office into thinking he might be Hispanic or something.

ee33ee

What if you're Asian and your parents name you like Malcolm X or something, and then you put "Unknown"?

Keshira

Having Malcolm X as your name could be construed as a negative thing too. It depends on what admissions officer you get.