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07-22-2008, 04:47 PM
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#1636 | | Member
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| They couldn't possibly...it wouldn't even be close to being accurate. My husband is 7/8 Hispanic but has an Irish surname. So my daughter is nearly half Hispanic, but has an Irish surname. Okay, that's a bit convoluted but what about people who are half minority on their mother's side? Their surnames could be anything. | 
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07-22-2008, 05:13 PM
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#1637 | | Member
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"Hispanic" refers to an ethnicity, not a racial group.
| yes, but her father was raised in Poland and she knows i'm sure next to nothing about venezuelan culture and it's all ~polska pride~ for her. Does that still count as being Hispanic? I'm skeptical.
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07-22-2008, 05:34 PM
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| Maybe she does know ALL about Venezuelan culture & you just aren't aware of that, art_star. | |
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07-22-2008, 07:31 PM
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#1639 | | Member
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| It would be cool if we could apply using a "number" instead of our names. That would get rid of the ethnicity problem... perhaps. | 
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07-22-2008, 07:54 PM
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#1640 | | Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Modulation It would be cool if we could apply using a "number" instead of our names. That would get rid of the ethnicity problem... perhaps. | Isn't that pushing a little far into 1984/prison territory? Most people seem to complain that the application process is dehumanizing... I doubt they'd push it farther.
If you're being sarcastic, sorry. | |
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07-23-2008, 07:03 AM
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#1641 | | Senior Member
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| Is a Swiss numbered bank account 1984-ish? | |
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07-23-2008, 10:10 AM
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#1642 | | Member
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Isn't that pushing a little far into 1984/prison territory? Most people seem to complain that the application process is dehumanizing... I doubt they'd push it farther.
If you're being sarcastic, sorry.
| I think racial preferences are more dehumanizing than anonymity. | |
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07-23-2008, 10:41 AM
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#1643 | | Senior Member
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| Just as a side note, Swiss numbered accounts aren't anonymous anymore. Most of the bank employees aren't allowed to look at your identity, but it is on record. The closest thing to a truly anonymous account is having your lawyer open an account in the firm's name. You're covered by attorney client privilege. Guatemala is the best place to do this. Anonymous Banking for Offshore Asset Protection | |
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07-23-2008, 03:14 PM
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#1644 | | Member
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I don't think asians have a more difficult time. Where did this idea originate? Certainly not at the UCs such as Berkeley, UCLA, which are over 40% Asian.
| Do you think it was always 40%?
Both UCB and Stanford have admitted to and apologized for admissions practices which were biased against Asian-Am applicants.
For instance, during a 3-5 period, the % of AA students at Stanford remained about the SAME while the no. of AA had increased significantly.
It’s no coincidence that the % of AAs at Stanford has increased significantly since the mid-late ‘90’s. Quote: |
Do you mean private schools like the Ivies and other Top 20? If so, everyone seems to think their ethnic group would be shafted, because so few of any group get in.
| So how do you explain Jews who make up 1.5% of the college-age pop. and 26% of the Ivy student body?
That’s “over-representation” by a factor of 17.
AAs, in contrast, are “over-represented” by a factor of 3. Quote: |
Anyway, just having fun here, but I think it would be fun for an asian applicant to play AGAINST type, and be the leader of a grundge band, be completely neurotic, distrust authority, and be a comedian in a night club
| Yeah, there aren’t Asian grundge bands (much less bands in general), comedians, etc. (Hint – most of these types don’t aspire to go to the Ivies, much less any top college).
And Asians (well, immigrants) tend not to trust authority. | |
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07-23-2008, 03:33 PM
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Even if Jian Li had lied about his race and said he was, I don't know, African or South American maybe, wouldn't the college admissions people guess anyway because of his name?
| But what if Jian Li’s name had been James Lee? A James Lee could be Asian, black or white.
Anyone who thinks there isn’t bias even w/ regard to names is being a bit naďve. Quote: |
For instance, Peru had a Japanese (racially) president--Alberto Fujimori, he's still Hispanic.
| Ahh, but would he be seen as adding “diversity” or just be seen as another “Asian applicant”?
(Btw, I’m sure you mean ethnically). | |
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07-23-2008, 03:42 PM
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#1646 | | Junior Member
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| Asian American parents tend to equate prestigious colleges and universities with wealth and social success, and thus tend to "encourage" (more like force) their kids to perform better in academics in order to achieve economic success.
Thus, we have the obscene amounts of over-achieving Asian kids with insane test grades and GPAs who have no clear goals in life other than to become a doctor, engineer, or lawyer (i.e obtain wealth).
Furthermore, Asian kids will go to EXTRAORDINARY means to obtain a good grade. I have seen considerable amount of unscrupulous behavior due to the drive to obtain those 4.0... | |
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07-23-2008, 04:00 PM
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Thus, we have the obscene amounts of over-achieving Asian kids with insane test grades and GPAs who have no clear goals in life other than to become a doctor, engineer, or lawyer (i.e obtain wealth).
| Once could say the same thing about Jewish kids.
Btw, do the majority of Jewish kids go to community colleges like Asian kids? | |
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07-23-2008, 04:05 PM
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#1648 | | Senior Member
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| Thanks, Weasel8488, I did not know that the anonymity has been reduced. | |
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07-23-2008, 04:52 PM
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#1649 | | Junior Member
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| Guess Jews and Asians follow the same social pattern or "construct" (for the lack of a better term) | |
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07-23-2008, 06:37 PM
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#1650 | | Junior Member
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| people say all the asian applicants are the same because they all get 2400SAT 5s on 36APs violin piano etc... and thus don't stand out...
what if we don't get that? what if we get less than that.. then we would stand out and get accepted right? | |
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