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Old 04-01-2008, 01:25 PM   #16
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Especially for international students... A little embarrassing but honestly, that was how I picked my college-list (combined with graduate school rankings within my field of interest) when I was in HS.

Hence, as more international students apply, top 10-15 schools will receive more applicants (IMO).
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:59 PM   #17
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too many accidents occurred in 1990!
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:40 PM   #18
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Impact of elite schools doing away with early decision?

The positive impact was watching seniors stay engaged, albeit stressed until April 1. The negative which is a big negative, are all those kids who would have had a reality check in December, are getting it now with no chance for a do-over. Maybe it is time for the likely/unlikely letter to make a complete comeback.
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:03 PM   #19
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It seems so random! DS with 800/800/760, 5 SAT-II's over 700, 16 AP's, NMF/$2500 award winner, Presidential Scholar, #2 in class, plays nine musical instruments/composes, tutors, works, etc./etc./etc.; accepted to none of four Ivies.

However, in truth, none of these were truly the best fit for him, and he was accepted to six other schools, including his dream/top choice (MIT). It's so much more important to choose schools based on fit, not a published/popular list; maybe these adcoms do know what they're doing!
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:29 PM   #20
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At Harvard, as at Yale, the applicant pool included an extraordinary number of academically gifted students. More than 2,500 of Harvard’s 27,462 applicants scored a perfect 800 on the SAT critical reading test, and 3,300 had 800 scores on the SAT math exam. More than 3,300 were ranked first in their high school class.
Harvard admitted 1948 students this year. So, in other words, Harvard had far more applicants with perfect SAT scores and/or ranked no. 1 in their class than it had spaces.

'Nuff said.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:35 PM   #21
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i swear they say this every single year...
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:16 PM   #22
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How do we look at this and the HS graduation crisis through the same lense?
This is a good question and it speaks to the rapidly-widening disparity in our society. There are plenty of kids at "the top" - the most competitive high schoolers who are bound for the elite schools, super-successful even before entering college in ways that generations of high school students have never been. At the same time, the amount of kids that our overburdened and underfunded schools are failing - particularly in vulnerable areas - is also growing at a ridiculous pace with no sign of letting up (and no one has any good ideas on how to stop it). What we are going to see over the next few decades is a dichotomy of the extremely successful and those that have failed and been failed by society. If anything, it sounds like the gap between rich and poor is going to broaden even more than it already has. Sounds like bad times.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:33 PM   #23
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Does anyone know the statistics for Princeton (just curious because a friend got in)?
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:39 PM   #24
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Eegad. Will the admissions climate ease up at least a *bit* by the time current high school freshmen are applying to college (that'd be college class of '15, BTW)?
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:08 PM   #25
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Based on these statistics, admission is getting more selective at urban and downtown schools (like schools in downtown New Haven)... part of the reason may be that people prefer an urban setting to the suburbs where they grew up. Swarthmore and Stanford haven't gotten much more selective than they were ten years ago, but places like NYU have, for example. Do you think this is part of a trend?
Design New Haven: Record-low 2008 admission rates for downtown colleges
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:29 PM   #26
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that's a very interesting question posterX, someone should really look into that. (Perhaps you'd like to volunteer? )
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:36 PM   #27
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1990 is highest birth rate since 1962. Birth rate drops every year from 1990 to 1995. So there was no reason for schools to grow to make room for this bunch.
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:44 PM   #28
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watch.... in 10 years or so, every ivy league's admission rate will be .01%
but in all seriousness, what do those admissions officers look for in people when reviewing applications?!?!
they reject the best and well-rounded individuals. how is that possible?!
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:56 PM   #29
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A good friend of mine got into Harvard, playing football next year..he had lower scores and everything than me..but oh well...still got grad school!! hope is always up..
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:04 PM   #30
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7.1% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WT FREAK!

7.1%?!!?!?!?!?!?!?

Okay, it's final. I'm scoring a perfect on the SAT...
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