3365

like 90 percent of admitted students are from california. is there like a state policy that forces them do so? of couse as a california resident i am not against this policy of favoring california students but why exactly do ucs favor californians?

DCforMe

because the UC's are funded by state taxpayer dollars

bluebayou

and they are rather expensive for OOS kids. At ~$45k (and increasing) to attend a UC at OOS prices, a private college offers a better value proposition, IMO.

tokenadult

Many state university systems favor in-state students as to price, because in-state families pay taxes to support the university, and then out-of-state students feel priced out. And most students go to college close to home. So most state universities in large states mostly enroll in-state students. In smaller states nearer to other states, you can occasionally find state universities with a high percentage of out-of-state students, but that isn't the most commonly seen pattern.

middsmith

how many private colleges offer a better value proposition than top UCs? 10? 20?

3365

yeah actually academically the ucs match that of the ivy schools but then again the ucs are not up to par in terms of prestige compared to ivies

RedStorm

I don't know about it matching the Ivies academically; I'd say that the same subject matter is taught, but the student-teacher ratios for the UCs are much higher than the Ivies are (except Cornell probably).

someguy1337

...it is called the University of California for a reason.

sakky

To be clear, 90% of the undergraduate students are state residents. UC graduate students, especially at Berkeley and UCLA, are far more geographically diverse. For example, I know certain Berkeley PhD programs who didn't matriculate a single state resident in certain years; everybody who matriculated in those years was OOS or a foreign national. Yet clearly those graduate programs are also funded by state taxpayer dollars. In fact, the graduate programs , on a per-capita basis, probably get more state taxpayer funding than do the undergrad programs. {For example, it clearly costs more to train a PhD chemical engineer than it does to train a BS chemical engineer.}

An interesting paradox indeed, that UC's reserve most of their seats in their undergrad programs for state residents, but have no problem in importing large quantities of non-residents for their graduate programs.

byan1007

The primary goal of the UC is to educate the next generation of the Californian workforce. They primarily exist to serve Californian students, so of course they accept more California kids.

arklogic

perhaps 90% of the applicants are from california?

Narcissa

because they are in california, and funded by the california government, in order to serve californians. if your own family's not going to help u, who will?

cpeltz

Remember, we Californians PAY for UC's in our taxes. I don't know of any other public system that is nationally attractive. Our kids should NOT have to get 4.0's to get into the state university system!

kingofqueens

^well for Berkeley and UCLA you might have to, regardless of where you are from, unless you are outstanding in other areas aside from grades.

3365

i would love to get into ucla. probably the only college that is both academically stellar and "cool".