crisscross

my school is exactly like INVENIAM'S

lolcats4

@ Butternut:

Don't you lose being both first and last in rank, and in all the deciles?


Homeschooled as well :P

Equilibrium

Does anyone know how competitive class of '10 is?

u§ername

next year's will be harder than this years. and the year after that(my year, '10 for highchool 14 for college) will be even harder than you '13s. and the year after mine will be even more competitive than us, however i bet by that time many colleges will increase class size to accommodate all the qualified students (because that's just how lucky i am)


equil, at least the int'ls are VERY competitive our year. I live in Canada, and it seems all the smart people are in my year. the smartest 14 year olds all skipped a grade to compete with us for some reason... and the best.. 5 people in my grade in my school is like better than the best '09 and close to the best '08.

MIT 012

This impressive study knocking at the college door
breaks the graduating seniors stats up by region, state and graduating year.

In a nutshell, if you are white it is slightly better, if your asian/hispanic it gets
worse etc. It is much worse in the south and then the West compared to
the Northeast etc..

Its a huge report ...enjoy!

chinnychinchang

The class of '08 was one of the smallest, and the class of '10 is the largest by far. The class of '09 is however the most competitive (oh no!)

aisgzdavinci

Hope more c/o 2010ers smoke more pot so I have less people to worry about.

kartrider360

08 and 09 should be where it peaks

MIT 012

Post #23 is mostly correct.

In a number of states '07-'08 was when the # of graduating white
seniors peaked ([url=http://www.wiche.edu/Policy/Knocking/1992-2022/data.asp] see this link to the data [/ul]).

The combination of different ethinicity/race numbers might dealy the
peak in some states to next year or one year after but this matters
only if you put down "race unknown".

you should be considering what you put down as your
group/ethinicity/race (if any) and see what happens with
the trend?

bclintonk

The number of high school graduates peaked nationally in 2008 and will be down just slightly in 2009 and 2010---not enough of a change at that scale to affect college admissions. But regional and state-by-state changes are more complicated. High school graduates will be down in the Northeast and Midwest, generally up in the Southeast, and mixed in the West, with some states down sharply and others showing explosive growth. Especially notable is that non-Hispanic whites---the group statistically most likely to attend college---will be down quite significantly in many parts of the Northeast and Midwest, possibly enough to affect college admissions for colleges that draw their student bodies principally from those regions.

But other trends could offset this. I don't have data to prove it, by my impression is that in response to an increasingly competitive college admissions environment, students are applying to more colleges now than in the past, thereby amplifying the competitiveness. Also, online applications coupled with widespread use of the Common Application has simplified the application process, making it easier for students to apply to more colleges. Bottom line, it's hard to see any significant change one way or the other at the HYPS level, but most colleges and universities still draw primarily from a regional applicant pool, and competitive pressure at schools in some parts of the Northeast and Midwest may ease just a bit over the next few yewars.

stockguru92

'08 and '09 are by far more competitive for us than for '10ers. These two years are going to break a LOT of records.

u§ername

why? what caused this? besides, I know a lot of '09s and '10s and the '10s are definitely ALOT better

ticktock

surprisingly, my year (09) is the least competitive compared to 08 and 10. 08 had, by far, the smartest people. They won academic competitions left and right (1st place national) and many people NOT in the top 10 went to ivy league schools, whereas that never occured before. Even though they were smart, not many of them ended up in top tier schools, opting out for state schools etc.

ilovepeople712

omg this is kind of weird.
exactly same at my school.
not only is the class of 2009 the smartest class (based on average unweighted gpa) it is also the largest my school has ever had.

DunninLA

There are two separate inputs here:

1) # of students graduating high school
2) % of graduating students applying to 4 year colleges

even if the first measure peaks for HS graduates of 2009, the number of college applicants can still go up each year because a higher % will be applying to college.

I do not expect to see the # of applicants to top 200 schools EVER going down. I think the % increase in applicants to college will result in more students than any reduction in # of HS graduates.